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To: Hermes37

Blasey-Ford supporter much? Lots of experts confirming that Bloomberg faked the article.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/7453990/china-spy-chip-apple-amazon/

“However, experts have confirmed that images used in the report didn’t actually show the real chip at all.”

“Bloomberg’s Businessweek magazine published photos of the chips and the “motherboards” they were supposedly sneaked onto.”

“A major one is that photos used are not the devices in question – but rather stock photos of widely available type of computer chip known as a “signal coupler”.”


48 posted on 10/21/2018 3:31:57 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat
LOL,

I point out the fallacy of trying to prove a negative and your return volley begins with an ad-hominem attack. (a logical fallacy)

If accusing fellow freepers of demoncrat support WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE is your opener you demonstrate the very behavior you appear to resent and attribute to me. Well done! :)

49 posted on 10/22/2018 12:18:30 AM PDT by Hermes37 (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!)
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To: roadcat; Hermes37; dayglored
Blasey-Ford supporter much? Lots of experts confirming that Bloomberg faked the article.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/7453990/china-spy-chip-apple-amazon/

“However, experts have confirmed that images used in the report didn’t actually show the real chip at all.”

“Bloomberg’s Businessweek magazine published photos of the chips and the “motherboards” they were supposedly sneaked onto.”

“A major one is that photos used are not the devices in question – but rather stock photos of widely available type of computer chip known as a “signal coupler”.”

Thanks for posting The Sun link. I had not seen that one. . . I saw about a dozen others before taking off on vacation for a week on the sea which kinda limited my connections.

I find it interesting that Hermes37 just doubled down on his attack. . . ignoring the factual basis for my claims. He thinks I have to prove a negative. I don't. All that is necessary is for the Bloomberg Businessnews writers to come up with MORE motherboards and/or show a non-drawing motherboard with an in situ surreptitious IC in place that doesn't belong there compared to an authenticated SuperMicro Motherboard. Simple. Yet they have not done so. . . even in the original article. I have been looking for such a thing. Even their second article changed horses in mid-stream, jumping to a Faked Ethernet board covered with a metal heat-sink instead of a normal plastic cover, again an EASY TO SPOT change in the approved design. These are so stupid that even a cursory glance can find them. . . no spy agency worth its name would approve their use. They fail the smell test.

Yet, Hermes37, accuses me of false arguments and being in the position of having to prove a negative, that the Chinese did not do it. . . while there is no evidence they did except this FAKE NEWS ARTICLE from a known liar of a new source with plenty of evidence that they ARE lying now including from named sources publicly claiming they've been misquoted, misrepresented, and taken out of context. Absurd.

Incidentally, I retract my claim that the "coupler" is a six legged component. I blew that photo up and I can see that it is actually a component that has all of its connectors facing the camera. It is not a component that has legs that stick into a drilled board, but one that solders to pads on the board. I count 18 distinct solder pad contacts (3 rows of 6) on this side facing the camera. In multilayer board construction ICs often have area array packages such as this one which are soldered using alternative heating methods such as laser, infrared, vibrational, or inductive soldering.

57 posted on 10/28/2018 8:33:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot)
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