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To: Swordmaker

I am not referring to the latest but an older news story from months ago about the 200,000 compromised Cisco routers

What I am talking about is not directly related to the server part but they were discussed ad naseum on LinkedIn and other places where this type of information is regularly discussed and not typical for main stream news pubs.

This then is additive not part of the story you wax on about me being incorrect about. The endeavor servers provided by Apple are a key element in the overall architecture and the chip installed was deliberately done so for behavioral reasons. The same is true of the Cisco routers, I do not make this stuff up it is part of my profession to know and account for in the overall secure architecture my role and solutions require.

As to your last position of this being a big noting it is also being discussed on LinkedIn as a potential security risk and I maintain my interest for the reasons mentioned above. Its validation is still in question, time will tell and if you understand what is going on and you seem to have more than a remedial level of knowledge I hope you would agree that it bears monitoring. The Big Boys have been deep into stuff for years and they do not have clean hands by any measure, at least not to me.

Time will tell


19 posted on 10/10/2018 9:58:37 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 100American
As to your last position of this being a big noting it is also being discussed on LinkedIn as a potential security risk and I maintain my interest for the reasons mentioned above. Its validation is still in question, time will tell and if you understand what is going on and you seem to have more than a remedial level of knowledge I hope you would agree that it bears monitoring. The Big Boys have been deep into stuff for years and they do not have clean hands by any measure, at least not to me.

The CISCO exploit is the way it would be done. . . not adding an obvious extra IC to a motherboard, but by seeding additional commands and software to the firmware which is far harder to locate and discover. . . leaving the firewall full of holes the bad actors can walk through at leisure. THAT is something we absolutely do have to be aware of and guard against, checking to assure that what should be in firmware and all chips existent on boards is what is supposed to be there and nothing more.

Something so obvious as this is a red herring that causes us to look elsewhere than where we SHOULD be looking. This is the magician's distraction, not the actual exploit we SHOULD be looking for.

My point in all this is that Bloomberg has a reputation of publishing ignorant FAKE NEWS before this. Bloomberg writers literally do not know what they are talking about as several of the real experts they were picking the brains of prior to writing the articles pointed out. . . and these experts kept telling them "Your theory makes no sense," yet they ran with it anyway and omitted that truth from their article. Their predilection to using anonymous sources without a second source as outlined in this article is common. They are a serial publisher of FAKE NEWS. So far, no other credible source outside of Bloomberg has published anything to back up Bloomberg's claims and multiple people and organizations in official statements in the companies involved and in national security agencies have denied that what Bloomberg stated ever occurred. In addition, several of Bloomberg's named source experts have claimed they were misquoted and cited out of context, with Bloomberg citing hypothetical explanations as descriptions of actual real events.

Those, I think, are dispositive that Bloomberg's writers made up a narrative that was mostly wishful thinking built on a STORY fed to them by a single source with a marketing plan, Yossi Appleboum and his company Sepio Systems, to sell their mitigation software for EXACTLY what Bloomberg describes.

20 posted on 10/11/2018 11:52:10 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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