Posted on 09/26/2018 5:05:03 AM PDT by SJackson
New study estimates 16 to 29 million illegals in USA, as false-documented criminals claim American victims such as Mollie Tibbetts and NFL player Edwin Jackson.
The population of the United States is approximately 328 million and any observer might think it strange if the 2018 figure was still the 316 million from 2013 or 309 million from 2009. This raises questions about the number of people in the United States illegally.
“The number of undocumented immigrants living in the United States stayed steady for an eighth straight year in 2016 with 11.3 million people,” reported USA Today last year, citing a report from Pew Research that pegs the “unauthorized” population as “no different from the 2009 or 2015 estimates.” Those who view the 11.3 estimate as bogus now have some support.
A new study from Yale and MIT researchers estimates a range of 16 to 29 million with 22.1 million as the mean. So the number of false-documented illegals in the United States could easily be twice the 11.3 million Pew figure and more than the entire population of Chile (18.1 million), and approaching Taiwan (23.6 million) and Australia, with 24.7 million.
In May, National Public radio claimed “four academic studies show that illegal immigration does not increase the prevalence of violent crime or drug and alcohol problems.” Some illegals who don’t fit that profile have been in the news of late.
Last Friday, Guatemalan national Manuel Orrego-Savala was sentenced to 16 years in prison for killing Edwin Jackson, a linebacker for the Indianapolis Colts of the National Football League. The white Guatemalan illegal had a blood-alcohol content nearly two and a half times the legal limit when he crashed his truck into Jackson, killing the African American and his Uber driver Jeffrey Monroe.
Orrego-Savala, or whatever his real name is, was in the country illegally and had been deported in 2007 and 2009, returning with no difficulty. Jackson’s mother, Mary Ellen Powell Jackson, got the news as she was leaving church. “Our hearts have been ripped apart and we’re always asking, ‘Why Edwin?’” she told reporters, a hardworking, caring son with “a heart of gold.”
Deborah Monroe, Jeffrey’s widow, spoke directly to the Guatemalan illegal. “My family and I are serving a life sentence because of you,” Monroe said, “you’re a drunk, a liar, a murderer and a coward.”
Last Wednesday, a Mexican who calls himself Cristhian Rivera pleaded not guilty to the murder of University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts, 20. She died from “multiple sharp force injuries,” after being abducted by the false-documented Mexican, who claims he “blacked out,” and doesn’t remember stabbing Tibbetts to death.
The murder victim’s brother, Jake Tibbets, told Fox News his sister, “a beautiful young girl,” was killed by a “horrible person that came in from Mexico, illegally.” Investigators said he entered illegally between four and seven years ago, evidence that the border is totally porous and that U.S. officials have no clue how many illegals are in the United States.
One of the illegals is Mexican national Luis Bracamontes, who in 2014 in Sacramento gunned down police officers Danny Oliver and Michael Davis. In his trial earlier this year, the Mexican said “I wish I had killed more of the motherfuckers” and called witness Anthony Holmes a “nigger” before yelling at the jury “black lives don’t matter!” The racist Mexican had also been previously deported.
So had the Mexican criminal calling himself Garcia Zarate, along with other fake names. He was slated to be handed over to federal officials but in 2015 the sanctuary city of San Francisco released him. The Mexican criminal then gunned down Kate Steinle on a San Francisco pier. A San Francisco jury found Garcia Zarate not guilty and defense attorney Francisco Ugarte called the verdict “a vindication for the rights of immigrants.”
Mexican national Juan Corona was deported in 1956 but duly returned and became a labor contractor. Corona wound up killing 25, including Charles Fleming, Melford Sample, Donald Smith, John J. Haluka, Warren Kelley, Sigurd Beierman, William Emery Kamp, Clarence Hocking, James W. Howard, Jonah R. Smallwood, Elbert T. Riley, Paul B. Allen, Edward Martin Cupp, Albert Hayes, Raymond Muchache, John H. Jackson, Lloyd Wallace Wenzel, Mark Beverly Shields, Sam Bonafide and Joseph Maczak.
Not a single one was Mexican and Corona also sodomized the victims and mutilated them with a machete. So the worst murderer in California and possibly U.S. history, now 84, was not even supposed to be in the country. Neither was Mexican national Lorenzo Sanchez, who raped 12-year-old Cally Jo Larson, stabbed her in the chest, then strung up the victim’s bleeding body from a staircase banister.
Even those who didn’t vote for Donald Trump might think that kind of violent crime calls for tough border security and building the wall. As the president recently tweeted.
“I want to know, where is the money for Border Security and the WALL in this ridiculous Spending Bill, and where will it come from after the Midterms? Dems are obstructing Law Enforcement and Border Security. REPUBLICANS MUST FINALLY GET TOUGH!”
So far they aren’t, and the left doesn’t want the government to know how many false-documented illegals are criminals or even how many illegals are in the country. The Trump administration has proposed a citizenship question on the 2020 census. The ACLU calls this “a deliberate attempt by President Trump to once again attack immigrants.”
By other illegals (drug cartel and the like?).
Sorry, mispost.
If the 2009 pop was 309 million and we take as true the most recent claim that 1 in 9 in the US is illegal, then there would be 34.33 million illegals in the USA.
I would believe that number.
You can now enter California stores featuring 3 customer service clerks, with none of them being English speakers.
That happened to me last month for the first time.
Parts of many large cities in the US should post similar signs in dangerous areas. The Brits have a few now.
Maybe this one
Deport them all. No exceptions.
We can’t deport 22 million (or more) criminals. What we can do is deport every criminal we find and work hard to find as many as possible. Fine them the cost of the process, at government rates so it will bankrupt them. Given a real cost for continuing their crimes, these criminals will voluntarily go home rather than wait for a (for them expensive) deportation. End result? No more illegals.
Happened to me at,of all places, a KFC, counter worker didn’t speak English, manager barely...when they started to argue....I said that’s OK,never mind and left...on the way out I noticed a sales slip on a tray,picked it up for store number and called HQ...told them I won’t be in that location ever again. Beside not being able to place an order,then waiting for them to decide what I ordered, the place was a mess...
“We can’t deport 22 million (or more) criminals.”
Nonsense.
Of course we can. If the will is there. Unfortunately the will is largely nonexistent.
An effective way to get them to self deport is to take away the freebies, and go after the employers. But none of that is even considered.
Say the will; the desire is not there. But please don’t say Americans can’t accomplish something. Frankly, it’s an insult.
History is full of examples of Americans accomplishing what appeared to be impossible.
30 to 50 million is a realistic spread.
Any numbers that come from the government or leftist media are cooked up in pursuit of a political agenda.
This study falls into the category of “Suspicions Confirmed!”
We have, anecdotally, known for years that the US government was intentionally lying to us about the number of illegal aliens in America.
I’m pleased that this issue is now open for discussion.
BTW, I actually believe that there are closer to 30 million illegal aliens in the US!
We should rub their asses with sandpaper and pour turpentine on it as soon as we catch them at the border. They’d self deport.
Anybody who bothers to do the math will find that number incredibly more accurate than what they’ve been telling us for years, particularly given how many Spanish-speakers I run into (no English).
Those new numbers correlate nearly exactly with the guesstimated numbers from a dozen years ago I posted on FR of 1 in 8-10 people in the US as illegals.
Back in the day, we had Army posts on the FRontier.
The Southern border is our FRontier.
Id be in favor of Army & Marine outposts on the Southern border, kinda like the Special Forces encampments in Vietnam.
I see no reason at all why the USA should not militarize our border - after all, we ARE AT WAR with the invaders!
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