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Hurricane Florence Live Thread II
NHC/NOAA ^ | 12 September 2018 | NHC/NOAA

Posted on 09/12/2018 1:53:29 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The National Hurricane Center has been issuing advisories for Hurricane Florence since August 30. The five day "Cone of Uncertainty" archive progression since Aug. 30 may be found here. As the super-size storm named Florence approached the U.S. Atlantic Coast, stories abound of people who are refusing to evacuate barrier islands.

The 82nd Airborne has relocated all of its assets, while FEMA is using Fort Bragg as a major staging area for post-storm supplies, including meals, water and cots. Fort Jackson (Columbia SC) has cancelled events including basic training graduation to prepare for military and civilian evacuees from coastal locations.

While hurricane preparations are rushed to completion, some stores are closing for lack of hurricane supplies inventory. Smart phone app Gas Buddy provides updates for gasoline availability along evacuation routes.

Wave heights to 83 ft. were recorded while Hurricane Florence churned 435 miles from Wilmington, NC. Storm surge is predicted to reach 6-13 ft along the coastline to the N of landfall. Steering currents are forecast to collapse at or near landfall, resulting in Florence meandering for days. This is expected to result in up to 40 inches of rainfall in isolated areas in the Carolinas, and up to a foot of rain in the Appalachian Mountains.

Tropical Storm Isaac: The government of France has issued Tropical Storm Warnings and Watches for the Lesser Antilles.

Invest 95L: The National Hurricane Center predicts 70% chance of development in the Gulf of Mexico. Limited forecast models, satellite graphics and GOM buoy info are available for Invest 95L below.

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Hurricane Florence Isaac Invest 95L
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Florence Public Advisory Isaac Public Advisory
Florence Forecast Discussion Isaac Forecast Discussion
Buoy/Observations near Florence Buoy/Observations near Isaac Buoys Western GOM

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Hurricane Florence & Isaac Thread I



TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: braking; florence; hurricane; hurricaneflorence; hurricaneflorenceii; isaac; nautinurse; tropical
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To: randita

That appears to be the outermost periphery of Florence in your area. Hang onto your rain boots.


681 posted on 09/15/2018 6:39:30 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: NautiNurse

Windy out near Clemson this morning, but nothing more than that yet. Flash flood map looks a whole lot different this morning and suddenly includes this area in its outer band, but other than that all indicators are changing in the positive direction.


682 posted on 09/15/2018 7:26:37 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: thoughtomator

Rain is coming...slowly...


683 posted on 09/15/2018 7:34:19 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: NautiNurse

Just as I’m feeling all confident that there would be no damage here, two large branches just fell right next to my neighbor’s house, big enough to kill someone if it landed on them.


684 posted on 09/15/2018 7:42:48 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: thoughtomator

Trees near home = bad location.


685 posted on 09/15/2018 8:13:50 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: mabarker1

If you really love to drink milk, powdered milk tastes surprisingly good when there is nothing else for days. The stuff is much better than years ago. Long shelf life too.


686 posted on 09/15/2018 8:19:52 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: randita

In Richmond we got about an inch overnight. Very little wind or rain, though it was dark and dreary all day yesterday.


687 posted on 09/15/2018 8:21:40 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: NautiNurse

It’s just a fact of life when you live in an area with a lot of forest. Made it through Irma with no trees down and this isn’t looking like it will impact anywhere close to that.


688 posted on 09/15/2018 8:44:39 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: NautiNurse; thoughtomator

Neighbors has some pines that’s way too close for comfort. That’s my biggest concern if a major hurricane comes through this area. Nothing I can do about it.


689 posted on 09/15/2018 9:08:14 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: NautiNurse

Most folks on this forum already know this, but the Red Cross isn’t necessarily the best place to send donations. It has a history of paying its higher ups very, very well.

Samaritan’s Purse is located in NC and they get a great bang for the buck.


690 posted on 09/15/2018 9:28:33 AM PDT by Darnright (We live in interesting times.)
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To: Mr Fuji

Perhaps after the storm is in the history books, you could casually mention to your neighbor about the trees imperiling your dwelling.


691 posted on 09/15/2018 9:43:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: Darnright

The Red Cross situation has been going on for decades. Long history of scandal. Many years ago, the Red Cross executive in Miami-Dade was fired for something like misappropriation of funds. She was awarded about $250K as a parting gift.


692 posted on 09/15/2018 9:49:21 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: NautiNurse

I’ve discussed it to death with them. One set of neighbors told me every year for the past 10+ years he was getting their two pines taken down. He never did and then the couple divorced. The lady remaining says she wants them gone but says she can’t afford it.

The other side of neighbors wants them down if I’ll pay for it. bleh (way too many for me to pay for). Plus, some of the cluster of pines I believe falls on HOA property and they won’t even remove dead standing pines in another location. So it’s complicated to say the least.

Ah the joys of living in the Lowcountry.


693 posted on 09/15/2018 9:49:50 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: Mr Fuji

I would suggest a single visit to an attorney then—and carefully worded letters to your neighbors and HOA stating that they are aware of the hazard to your property and have refused to do anything about it and have therefore assumed all responsibility for future problems. That should get them moving.


694 posted on 09/15/2018 9:53:53 AM PDT by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: Mr Fuji

Based on what I see in my neighborhood, you’d expect carnage and destruction with every windstorm... old, tall trees everywhere. They drop lumber too - but in practice, actual home damage is not that common. Getting neighbors to maintain the trees? Nigh impossible unless they’re doing it for their own purposes.


695 posted on 09/15/2018 9:57:51 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: snarkpup

Those “yukking it up, the storm didn’t amount to much”....need to recall that it was indeed a Cat 4# Hurricane until it got close to land....further it would appear the Almighty changed the equation. All should be grateful as had this been a cat 4 with all the water grinding this storm is doing, the destruction would have been close to 100%. Lives were saved from that!


696 posted on 09/15/2018 10:01:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: NautiNurse

Got some. Trouble is that I’m the only one that will drink either one of them. Although I figure if there’s no fresh for Days the others will change their tune. I also keep Canned Evaporated and Boxed (no refrigeration) in stock. And Sweetened Condensed cans.

The Powdered costs the same as Fresh almost. Lately Fresh Gallons have been about $1.60@Gallon so the Powdered is a bit more right now.

Now all I need is Dehydrated Water, Gin and Vodka and I’ll be set.


697 posted on 09/15/2018 10:07:36 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Lcongress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: caww

This storm is far from over. Cranky weather guy’s blog post today should be read by every one near the mountains in SC, NC, WV,and VA.

He seems to think that NHC’s estimated rain totals for the next few days are considerably understated. IOW, he is starting to agree with the general outline of Joe Bastardi’s predictions about the damage that will be done by this storm.

If he’s right, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.


698 posted on 09/15/2018 10:15:31 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: independentmind
I can agree with that.....I know it happened in my hometown when the flash floods and persistent rain happened a few weeks ago, (without a Hurricane), the raging waters broke all the records and destruction was far greater then when they endured past hurricanes.....
699 posted on 09/15/2018 10:31:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

One of the problems here is that we really don’t have anyone locally who writes about weather in any depth. To me that is surprising, because we are home to a very prominent public university.

I try to read Kevin Myatt, who covers the Roanoke/New River Valley (southwest of me) and the Capital Weather Gang (northeast of me) to get a feel for more big picture analysis, rather than just the local weather forecast for the next 24 hours.

Myatt has been talking about the potential for much larger rainfall totals for several days.


700 posted on 09/15/2018 10:42:16 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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