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To: dangus

Please forgive me for commenting as a non Catholic, but even in the first sentence, it shows they still don’t get it.

The phrase “tragic moment for the church” appears in the first sentence, showing once again their first thoughts are for the church., the church as victim. Wow.


20 posted on 08/26/2018 3:15:34 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: MustKnowHistory

I read it to mean not a tragedy for the ruling structures or facades and the presiding clerical bureaucracies but rather a tragedy for all the members....that is the “church” since it is they who have been victimized by their “shepherds”!


28 posted on 08/26/2018 4:14:51 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: MustKnowHistory

“The Church,” as he writes, refers to the entire body of Christ, including every victim of abuse, every child aborted because of the political fecklessness of Catholic bishops, everyone whose faith has been scandalized by the abuse, and every priest, religious, and congregant who persists in their faith.


36 posted on 08/26/2018 4:58:03 AM PDT by dangus
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To: MustKnowHistory
"The phrase “tragic moment for the church” appears in the first sentence, showing once again their first thoughts are for the church., the church as victim. Wow.

The Catholic church doesn't consider "the church" to be an organization in the sense that Protestants do. The RCC considers "the church" to be the entire mass of baptized Christians (even Protestants), including those living on earth now, and all others "elsewhere". Another phrase for it is "the Body of Christ".

46 posted on 08/26/2018 5:21:38 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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Do you know who the Church is?

It is all the Christifideles (Christ-faithful people) united around their still-faithful or their contrite-and-recovered bishops.

That includes those still in this world, and those in the world to come.

58 posted on 08/26/2018 7:18:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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