Posted on 08/13/2018 5:24:26 PM PDT by blueyon
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Johnson County will accept nearly 1,500 provisional ballots either in full or in part, including dozens cast by unaffiliated voters who were incorrectly told by poll workers to cast provisional ballots.
The ballots could tip the balance in the GOP primary for governor. Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach and Gov. Jeff Colyer were separated by a mere 110 votes as of early Monday.
The Johnson County Board of Canvassers voted unanimously Monday to fully accept 1,176 ballots based on the recommendation of the county's election commissioner, Ronnie Metsker.
This included 57 ballots from unaffiliated voters who were incorrectly told on Election Day to cast provisional ballots. Kansas law restricts voters from switching parties on Election Day, but unaffiliated voters are allowed to declare a party at the polls.
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I guess we will see. I don’t like the loose nature of our electoral process where votes are so often found when needed. Each time this happens though it turns up the heat to fix the process, clean the voter rolls etc.
Colyer won in Shawnee by a wide margin and in Wyandotte there were only 4,200 total votes in the Republican race. The math doesn’t work, I’m afraid.
County Kobach Colyer
Johnson 26,381 30,842
Sedgwick 19,610 15,935
Leavenworth 3,847 2,566
Miami 1,950 1,389
Shawnee 7,708 8,440
Not so wide margins. We will just have to wait & see.
No, it’s not misleading. When you show your ID at the polls, they check the voter roll and you get either a Republican or a Democrat ballot based on your affiliation. If you are unaffiliated on election day, you may declare it at the polls. Those voters were unaffiliated on election day.
Well if they register as Republican on election day then they
are no longer unaffiliated, are they?
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That is pretty much how it works in Texas. They use a two year cycle
and on Primary day you select the party in which you want to participate.
Your voter card is stamp with whichever party you choose and you are bound
to that party for the remainder of the two year cycle, run offs, etc.
The Process starts all over at the beginning of the new two year cycle.
You receive your new voter registration card and your choice of party is
made at next the primary election.
Additionally in Texas if you move and don’t report it to the registrar then when
the voter card is mailed out and not deliverable at that address it is returned
to the registrar.
“When you show your ID at the polls, they check the voter roll and you get either a Republican or a Democrat ballot based on your affiliation. If you are unaffiliated on election day, you may declare it at the polls.”
Now just think about how crazy that is. Why would anyone choose to be “affiliated”. Why not be able to choose on the last day.
Provisional votes aren’t found, they have been there all along and everyone knew where they were and how many at each precinct. If you show up at the polls to vote and your name is not on the voter rolls for that precinct, they give you a ballot, but it is sealed in an envelope, it is not counted on election day. If a contest is close, they determine if the voter is duly registered and if so, they open the provisional ballots and count it. This usually happens when someone has moved and failed to inform the Court House, so there name was on their old precinct roll.
That is true but votes are often found as I described as well. Example Broward county Fla. I was not commenting specifically about Kansas.
I once heard a democrat election lawyer say it is easy to reverse an election. But the count must be close. He said, “Just keep counting until your candidate is ahead,.....then stop counting.”
Thanks blueyon.
KCUR (Public TV) reports:
County election officials started counting their provisional ballots — about 9,000 scattered across the state — Monday. That included nearly three in four counties in the state, including population centers Johnson and Sedgwick counties. Both had about 1,800 provisional ballots, far more than any other county in the state. Six counties will wait until next Monday to start their canvass.
The Mississippi primary a few years back shows the GOPe can be just as corrupt at voter fraud as the Dems if they put their minds to such.
Thanks, looks like we have awhile to go before we have a definite answer.
Voter fraud requires violating voting laws. Provisional votes are legal.
The world laughs at our elections circus
with unaffiliated voters still casting provisional ballots in the gop primary.
A close election would seem to always flip to the Democrats on a recount, even without fraud. I have seen many such results. It is a structural problem.
I am certain there is plenty of fraud of course. Mail-in ballots seem to be the principle vector. A turnout of 100% + in a precinct is the obvious tell.
I believe that close elections (less than 1% margin) should not be recounted, they should be redone.
Or a turnout of >100%
KS is a “closed primary” state and one must have already registered to vote, weeks before deciding to vote and declare your party preference. If you have none, you may vote in the general election as our ballots are printed with one party only and not open to selecting a D for one candidate, R for another and I or other for a third!
I don’t know what Ronnie Metzker was smoking to have determined to count all those “unaffiliated” ballots but his decision will be challenged, I can assure you, speaking as one of Johnson County’s many GOP voters!
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