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Florida 'stand your ground' shooter Michael Drejka charged with manslaughter
https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooter-florida-stand-ground-case-charged-manslaughter/story?id=57151343 ^ | 8/13/2018 | BILL HUTCHINSON

Posted on 08/13/2018 9:58:09 AM PDT by dragnet2

The Florida man who invoked the "stand your ground" self-defense after shooting a black man in a dispute over a parking space was charged Monday with manslaughter, officials said.

Michael Drejka, 47, was arrested Monday morning in the fatal shooting in July of Markeis McGlockton in Clearwater, Florida.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; ccw; chl; donotescalate; drejka; florida; floridaman
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To: kiryandil

there are many, many similarities between GZ and MD. Why do you think MD shouldn’t be allowed to defend himself or was out of line defending himself? It’s on video that he was surprised with a violent shove (off his feet, through the air). We didn’t see GZ’s attack on video...just asking what you think is different. But please, base it on actual facts and not what you’ve read in the (very slanted) media.


261 posted on 08/14/2018 6:32:22 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: greenishness

Its a pity

In the old days it woulda been different

This might have been a 1000er


262 posted on 08/14/2018 7:06:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: Justa

I’m hearing only one shot fired. Where are you getting this second shot stuff? I also reviewed the sheriffs lengthy news conference. The sheriff stated very clearly we wouldn’t be here if M would not have assaulted Drejka to begin with. The sheriff is also a lawyer. Good luck when the defense calls him to the stand. It’s going to be an uphill battle to say the least for the prosecution to prove Drejka s arrest free past forced M to commit assault.


263 posted on 08/14/2018 7:19:28 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

I haven’t heard any audio. Just read that two shots were fired.

Since he’s charged with manslaughter the State has to prove that Drejka had prior intent and means of killing someone. I.e. present a preponderance of evidence of Drejka’s prior use of his firearm in confrontations of his own creation. That will establish he willfully created and promoted confrontations which could reasonably be presumed would lead to the death of another. AKA manslaughter.

Self defense would not come into play if the weapon was maintained for an offensive purpose. His prior behavior points that way. So he wasn’t defending himself as much as he was using the FL self-defense law simply as the pretext for shooting someone consistent with his previous offensive intent with the firearm.


264 posted on 08/14/2018 7:38:40 AM PDT by Justa
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To: chris37

Awww, is that you trying to find your brains?


265 posted on 08/14/2018 7:39:06 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: wardaddy
Good to see you too WD.

It's funny watching idiots try to explain themselves... each explanation just reinforces their idiocy and why everyone thought they were idiots in the first place.

We have it from the shooter himself IN HIS OWN WORDS, that he wanted to off someone, over *the same parking spot*. We also know that the shooter was leaving the scene, but came back to *the same parking spot*

Despite the info, a few MORONS (one a pathological moron who probably shouldn't be armed) still take up for the POS.

266 posted on 08/14/2018 7:43:31 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: wardaddy
Good to see you too WD.

It's funny watching idiots try to explain themselves... each explanation just reinforces their idiocy and why everyone thought they were idiots in the first place.

We have it from the shooter himself IN HIS OWN WORDS, that he wanted to off someone, over *the same parking spot*. We also know that the shooter was leaving the scene, but came back to *the same parking spot*

Despite the info, a few MORONS (one a pathological moron who probably shouldn't be armed) still take up for the POS.

267 posted on 08/14/2018 7:43:31 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Justa
Well good job to the state of Florida for allowing this DA to put everyone again at risk of prosecution if they are forced to defend themselves. This case is the very reason for SYG laws and this DA has made the law ineffective by bringing these charges. I hope the people are happy when the next video comes up of a CCW holder who is beat to death by some thug and possibly even shot to death with their own firearm because they hesitated out of fear of going to prison. It will happen and many many more times than the other way.

If society believes in self defense we must protect the non aggressor otherwise there is no self defense. Like the sheriff said if M did not commit assault he would not be dead that is a fact and it's the reason no charges should have ever been brought. Innocent people will die and innocent people will go to prison because of the DA caving to BLM and the left.

268 posted on 08/14/2018 7:56:32 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

I’m in complete agreement. There is nothing else to be determined about this incident BUT the shove. Not the parking space not the histories of the 2 people, not the girlfriend, nothing. And when assessing the shove, it’s clear that MD had the right to fear for his life and protect himself.


269 posted on 08/14/2018 7:59:18 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: precisionshootist

there was only one shot


270 posted on 08/14/2018 7:59:41 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001
Yes, confirmed only one shot. When reviewing the sheriffs full press conference he lays it out very clear why this is self defense and this sheriff is also a lawyer.

This is a political prosecution and is sure to fail. The people of Florida passed SYG to prevent prosecutions like this. It can be argued forever if the attack would have stopped without shooting but it can't be argued who was the aggressor that escalated a verbal confrontation to a violent and ultimately deadly attack.

271 posted on 08/14/2018 8:26:39 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Please, give me more time from your life that you will never get back. Every second makes my collection all the more grand.

272 posted on 08/14/2018 8:32:25 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: AAABEST

Umm, I’m pretty sure the ‘morons’ on this thread are more interested in defending FL’s self defense law than Drejka.

Prior to the charge of manslaughter that was the only issue. All arguments against Derjka at the time were in reality arguments against self-defense. Thankfully, the State believes there is enough evidence to charge him with manslaughter. With manslaughter a reasonable discussion can bring in all extraneous issues such as prior actions, intent, disposition etc. without calling into question the legitimacy of self defense.


273 posted on 08/14/2018 8:44:09 AM PDT by Justa
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To: precisionshootist

“Well good job to the state of Florida for allowing this DA to put everyone again at risk of prosecution if they are forced to defend themselves.”

I hope you’re over reacting. Manslaughter and FL’s self-defense law are pretty exclusive of each other. The State will have to prove a prior and consistent intent to murder and the defense will only want the self-defense shooting evidence to be considered.

IMO if all the evidence is considered he’s convicted. If only the shooting video he walks.

And I don’t think this imperils FL’s self-defense statute if all the evidence is considered. That should actually raise the bar where self-defense is actually manslaughter. I.e., did a person threaten to ‘blow another person’s head off’ before, did they brandish their weapon in traffic, were they aggressive and confrontational, etc.

Should be a good trial.


274 posted on 08/14/2018 9:01:01 AM PDT by Justa
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To: plain talk

And if this gets entered into Drekja’s trial it will demonstrate prior intent and his lawyer will tell him to cut the best deal that he can.


275 posted on 08/14/2018 9:37:25 AM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Justa

This case was clearly self defense yet this man is facing up to 30 years in prison. So that fact pretty much negates the protection of the states SYG law. This is what happens when we let politics get involved. The DA is playing to the BLM protest crowd and won’t give a damn when the next thug beats someone to death because they were afraid to defend themselves.


276 posted on 08/14/2018 9:43:35 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

prosecutors hate syg because it deies them easy wins

personal injury lawyers hate it because it denies them lawsuits

gun grabbers hate syg because they want de facto repeal by oppressive litigation


277 posted on 08/14/2018 9:49:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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To: spacejunkie2001
What happened to your "recollection" that I was a Trayvon Martin supporter?

Hmmmmmmmmm?

278 posted on 08/14/2018 9:49:37 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Justa
With the manslaughter charge the long pause can now be asserted as illustrative of Drejka’s intent. An intent he had displayed for years prior on several previous occasions. It could be cited as an example of his intent to enter into a confrontation which would reasonably cause the death of another. I.e., manslaughter.

It was thoughtful of Drejka the Poisonous Toad to call up the boss of the septic tank truck guy and repeat his threat to kill the guy over the parking space, since that was one of the incidents that wasn't documented by police involvement...

279 posted on 08/14/2018 9:54:15 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Justa
So he wasn’t defending himself as much as he was using the FL self-defense law simply as the pretext for shooting someone consistent with his previous offensive intent with the firearm.

When they get the officers from the previous incidents up on the stand, recounting how Drejka lied like a rug when they stopped him, it's gonna leave a mark...

280 posted on 08/14/2018 9:56:15 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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