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To: DoodleDawg
But if you want to blame big government on a president or presidents then even you would have to admit that Wilson, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and the Bush's would have to bear much of the blame.

I have probably written far more about blaming big government on Wilson, Roosevelt, LBJ, Carter, Clinton and Obama than I have ever written about Lincoln.

I also throw Teddy Roosevelt in there, because he instituted a lot of big government policies leading up to Wilson. But yes, Wilson was one of the early worst, followed by Roosevelt and LBJ. Carter was a piker, though he did create the massive Education bureaucracy, and Clinton and Obama rightfully deserve all the scorn which can be heaped upon them.

But Lincoln set us on this path of big, unwieldy government concentrating money in Washington to engage in government picking winners and losers among industry, and creating the lucrative influence peddling organizations we see today.

79 posted on 07/20/2018 12:32:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I have probably written far more about blaming big government on Wilson, Roosevelt, LBJ, Carter, Clinton and Obama than I have ever written about Lincoln

LOL! Have you now?

86 posted on 07/20/2018 12:56:06 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg; rockrr; HandyDandy; x
DiogenesLamp: "I have probably written far more about blaming big government on Wilson, Roosevelt, LBJ, Carter, Clinton and Obama than I have ever written about Lincoln."

You know it's the nature of Free Republic that we can post more-or-less anonymously, nobody sees our faces and so can't know if a lie is bald-faced or not.
Unless someone like DiogenesLamp uses a </sarcasm> tag, we can't see or even necessarily infer smirk on his face.

But what we can do is check out his past posts, and do word searches for names like "Lincoln".
In the past few months DiogenesLamp has used Lincoln's name in posts hundreds of times, many multiples of his number two Democrat, Obama with several dozen mentions.
So clearly, Lincoln-hatred is a big deal to DiogenesLamp.

What about other big-time Democrat progressives, how often does DiogenesLamp mention them?

  1. Wilson -- about a dozen times, in passing.
  2. Clinton -- also dozen mentions.
  3. FDR -- two or three mentions.
  4. LBJ, Carter & Teddy Roosevelt -- once or twice each.

So, one might suppose that DiogenesLamp would at least know his own mind and his own priority sequence for demonization, but apparently that is not the case.

The fact is, in his mind Lincoln tops the list of political devils by many multiples of all others combined.

DiogenesLamp: "But Lincoln set us on this path of big, unwieldy government concentrating money in Washington to engage in government picking winners and losers among industry, and creating the lucrative influence peddling organizations we see today."

Pure fantasy, Republican government after the Civil War and reconstruction was basically the same as it had been before, with the exception of war debt payments.
For examples, non-debt Federal spending was 2.6% of GDP in, say, 1858, rose to 13% in 1865 then fell back to 2.5% by 1871.
None of these numbers are comparable to the explosion in non-defense Federal spending under Progressive, New Deal & Great Society, transforming the United States to a European style "socialist democracy".

And none of which DiogenesLamp cares even remotely about compared to his devil-of-all-devils: Abraham Lincoln.

I wonder if 150 years from now insane Democrats will still hate Donald Trump the same way they hate Lincoln, you know, for putting America first?

154 posted on 07/22/2018 9:52:52 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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