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Pence family's failed gas stations cost taxpayers $20M+ (leftist Yahoo News)
Yahoo ^ | July 13, 2018 | Brian Slodysko

Posted on 07/15/2018 8:42:24 AM PDT by gattaca

GARDEN CITY, Ind. (AP) -- Vice President Mike Pence turns nostalgic when he talks about growing up in small-town Columbus, Indiana, where his father helped build an empire of more than 200 gas stations that provided an upbringing on the "front row of the American dream."

The collapse of Kiel Bros. Oil Co. in 2004 was widely publicized. Less known is that the state of Indiana — and, to a smaller extent, Kentucky and Illinois — are still on the hook for millions of dollars to clean up more than 85 contaminated sites across the three states, including underground tanks that leaked toxic chemicals into soil, streams and wells.

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To: gattaca

meh


41 posted on 07/15/2018 10:06:13 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mariner

Partial truths without full information is in fact a smear


42 posted on 07/15/2018 10:07:26 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster; All

See my #39.
Agreed.


43 posted on 07/15/2018 10:08:05 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: gattaca

So, Indiana bankrupted Kiel with high taxes and environmental fines, but didn’t use the fines to implement any clean-up or follow through. Then when the company went bankrupt, found that they had to use the taxes they’d collected from them to fix the mess. Sounds like the state’s fault.


44 posted on 07/15/2018 10:09:12 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: marktwain

“The government changed the rules ex post facto, with the EPA.

Then the left claims the station owners owe the government money.”

I’m betting 1 million gas stations stayed in business and complied with, in this case (only), reasonable regulation. Throughout the country petroleum and additives were finding their way into the water table.


45 posted on 07/15/2018 10:11:56 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: gattaca

If Pence runs for President in 2024, expect this to come up. It will be totally irrelevant, but it will come up just the same.


46 posted on 07/15/2018 10:12:06 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Kipp

Does it say why they did that? Why would the SWQCB WANT a monopoly?


47 posted on 07/15/2018 10:13:32 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: GoldenPup
Moreover, anyone find it odd that Illinois and Kentucky were able to clean up 25 sites for $1.7M, but Indiana has used $21M for the other 60? In Indiana, it's half a million per site, but the other two states, it's $68K?

That there is corruption, and something stinks in Indiana. This was a wealth transfer from Kiel to who ever is running these "clean up" sites.

48 posted on 07/15/2018 10:18:49 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: BenLurkin

In the small town where I grew up....they had two tanks at a local gas station that were buried. Shop shut down around 1990. No one has ever done anything or said anything. Tanks sit there, and you have to believe...almost 30 years later....they have to be leaking. About 300 feet from some creek.


49 posted on 07/15/2018 10:20:44 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Nifster
Partial truths without full information is in fact a smear


50 posted on 07/15/2018 10:28:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Wonderful theory, wrong species)
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To: Mariner
"If true, it’s not a smear."

Not necessarily. THE most successful propaganda technique is to tell "the truth", but not ALL of "the truth".

51 posted on 07/15/2018 10:28:56 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: A_perfect_lady
The SWQCB probably didn't want a monopoly - they likely didn't foresee the consequences. They and CARB (California Air Resources Board) are a bunch of left-leaning bureaucratic idiots who have cost California residents thousands of dollars.

In 1992 they reduced the allowable amount of sulphur in diesel fuel. The result: leaky fuel seals,leaky hoses, o-ring failures that destroyed engines.

Then the MTBE fiasco mentioned by others above. They required MTBE (a known carcinogen) to be added to gas so less gas would be consumed. However, the MTBE/gas mixture reduced gas mileage, so people ended up using more gas to go the same # of miles than before the MTBE was added. And then we were left with contaminated water supplies.

52 posted on 07/15/2018 10:34:50 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: marktwain
They are penalizing owners for what happened decades prior, when the actions were legal; and the penalties are outrageously excessive.

What's more, I don't know if there's any accountability for what happens to that money once it's been paid to the government. Is it put into a fund to actually address the problem? Because it doesn't sound like it.

53 posted on 07/15/2018 10:48:46 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: BenLurkin

Just about every station that goes out of business invokes this law.


54 posted on 07/15/2018 11:01:21 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: jeffc

Class ...

Where does oil come from?

UNDERGROUND!

We have a winner ...


55 posted on 07/15/2018 2:34:58 PM PDT by TheNext
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To: Kipp

Sounds like a deep state event.


56 posted on 07/15/2018 7:20:44 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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