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Now is the moment to revisit the legality of the U.S.-Mexico border
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 2, 2018 | Marcela Davison Aviles

Posted on 07/03/2018 3:59:48 PM PDT by artichokegrower

There’s a popular saying among those of us in the Mexican American community who grew up on the border: We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us. With Sunday’s election of Andrés Manuel López Obrador as Mexico’s next president, the idea to revisit the legality of our southern border, proposed by Mexican leftist leader Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas Solórzano, is suddenly not so crazy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: borderinsecurity; bordersecurity; guadalupehidalgo; mexicoborder; rememberthealamo; war
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Now is the moment to revisit the sanity of anyone living in Sham Fransicko.


21 posted on 07/03/2018 4:14:10 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: rightwingcrazy

Thailand?


22 posted on 07/03/2018 4:14:42 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: Jean2

You might not like them today.


23 posted on 07/03/2018 4:14:51 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: artichokegrower

“A people should know when they’re conquered.” Quintus


24 posted on 07/03/2018 4:16:28 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: rightwingcrazy
How many square inches of land on this planet hasn’t been invaded or occupied?

I’m not going to do the calculations but given that most of Antarctica has not even been set foot on I would say it’s a lot.

But I do get the point.

25 posted on 07/03/2018 4:16:31 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: rfp1234

Tell that to the Khmers.


26 posted on 07/03/2018 4:19:08 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: artichokegrower

Oh Please, Please, Pretty Please push this idea as hard as you can on the lead-up to the 2018 mid-terms!!!! :)


27 posted on 07/03/2018 4:19:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Pontiac

Have at it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Byrd_Land

Still unclaimed territory, but occasionally “occupied”.


28 posted on 07/03/2018 4:25:07 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: artichokegrower

The Adams-Onis Treaty of 1819 assigned much of what is now the US to Spain—and those territories fell to Mexico when Mexico became independent a few years later, but there were very few Mexicans in those territories. Some of the non-Indian population had come directly from Spain. California was sparsely populated until the Gold Rush—and the Gold Rush would have made it impossible for Mexico to keep it even without the War of 1846-1848. There are some Californians, New Mexicans, and Texans who can trace their lineage back to when those areas belonged to Mexico but most of the Hispanics of the Southwest are immigrants from further south.


29 posted on 07/03/2018 4:26:59 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: artichokegrower
I watched a short video on youtube on “then/now” shots of locations in Los Angeles used in the original Terminator movie. Every damned place now looks like Tijuana.
30 posted on 07/03/2018 4:27:14 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: artichokegrower

Take it back anytime you can

What idiots that border has been there almost two hundred years.

Don’t like it go live in Mexico


31 posted on 07/03/2018 4:27:53 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; artichokegrower

How many times have I posted on this board that they still think “Dees Lahnd Ees Ahr Lahnd” and people don’t believe it?

It is not about civil rights for “minorities” or “equal protection under the law” or any other high minded noise that has been parroted for the last 60 years.

IT IS ABOUT OCCUPATION AND TAKEOVER OF THE SOUTHWEST.

And since tomorrow is the 150th Anniversary of the implementation of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, President Trump should announce it as a day of celebration and reassertion of American possession and hegemony over the land that we call the United States of America, NOT Los Estados Unidos de Mexico.


32 posted on 07/03/2018 4:28:50 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: artichokegrower

The Conquistadors are still at it. The Spanish are still insane.


33 posted on 07/03/2018 4:29:49 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Aren't you glad Jeb! lost?)
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To: artichokegrower

Pretty funny. This is a Muslim//Left Wing ideology: If you owned the land once, even if you lost it, it’s still yours and you have rights to it. Islam believes they own Jerusalem; Russia thinks they own Ukraine; Mexico thinks they own half the USA.


34 posted on 07/03/2018 4:31:26 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: MeganC
“If Mexico wants another war then this time we get to take Cabo San Lucas and Cozumel!”

Don't forget the mouth of the Colorado, both banks of the Rio Grande, and a 20 mile wide DMZ/free-fire zone all along the northern border of Mexico. So what if Juarez, Tijuana, et al have to relocate.

35 posted on 07/03/2018 4:31:37 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: artichokegrower

Great-great-grandpa captured Santa Ana. You lost. We won. Deal with it.


36 posted on 07/03/2018 4:34:07 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: realcleanguy
If you owned the land once, even if you lost it, it’s still yours and you have rights to it. Islam believes they own Jerusalem;

Hmmm ... wonder where they got that idea?

37 posted on 07/03/2018 4:34:36 PM PDT by x
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To: mlo

“No. We stole it fair and square. “

Actually, Mexico did start the shooting war when their army overran one US Army outpost and then marched on Brownsville. The reaction to that assault was overwhelming, as to be expected, and the results fitting.


38 posted on 07/03/2018 4:36:28 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: artichokegrower
We remember that land was invaded and occupied.

No, dumbass it was purchased.

All of the land occupied by the contiguous states, aside from the original 13 colonies, was purchased. The United States did not expand by conquest.

39 posted on 07/03/2018 4:38:19 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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To: artichokegrower

Damn Marcela, if you were this f***ing bright before you left Mexico, you wouldn’t have had to move up to the “rasis” United States, idiot. Your Battle of Cinco de Mayo was a myth. A beer commercial. You never tell the “rest of the story”. The French came back and kicked their asses. The only reason they left was because the people there were so worthless. America? You don’t want none of this. Do yourself a favor. Rent the old movie “Viva Max!”


40 posted on 07/03/2018 4:38:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't pass up the opportunity to use the Second Amendment today! IT'S FREE!)
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