Now is the moment to revisit the legality of the U.S.-Mexico border

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 2, 2018 | Marcela Davison Aviles

[artichokegrower]

There’s a popular saying among those of us in the Mexican American community who grew up on the border: We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us. With Sunday’s election of Andrés Manuel López Obrador as Mexico’s next president, the idea to revisit the legality of our southern border, proposed by Mexican leftist leader Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas Solórzano, is suddenly not so crazy.

[Taxman]

Remember the Alamo!

Remember San Jacincto!

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

Not the thing to emphasize. We actually BOUGHT the land from Mexico, paid them gold. We bought it. If you were a Spanish Settler on the US side of the border you could choose which side to live on. Treaty of Guataloupe del Hildalgo. Read it.

[LadyDoc]

When I worked with the Apaches, they would point out the Mexicans stole the land from them.

[Rockingham]

Change the border, you say? Here’s my plan: let’s invade Mexico, kill off the narcos, annex the nice bits, and make the rest a protectorate where we dump our illegal aliens and Hispanic criminals.

[trebb]

The Spanish colonization in America started with Columbus in 1492. They conquered most of south America, western part of north America, Caribbean, and Mexico. Spain defeated Aztec Empire. They organized their colonies in Mexico, and became a largest empire at that time.

If there are any Aztec-lineage folks alive, they are the owners of Mexico.....Spain stole it from them.....

[jmacusa]

Yup.

[jmacusa]

Count this as, I dunno.... Reason number 240 for why I hate Mexicans. They started a war and lost. At the treaty of Hildago the issue was settled and they were paid $15 million for what is now Texas and a good portion of the present day American Southwest. For a nation that has been a sh!thole since Christ was a corporal and being one of only two nations on Earth fortunate enough to share a border with The United States Mexicans are the most obnoxious , thieving , grubby , grasping collection of racist arrogant beggars on the planet.

[wildbill]

Moses made the intitial proposal to the Spanish governor in San Antonio, but before he could complete the deal he died and never was able to found his settlement. His son, Stephen began a renewal of negotiations with the new Mexican revolutionary government and with the government of the new state of Coahila and Texas.

Settlement didn’t actually begin until 1825 under Mexican rule. There were so few Mexicans in Texas that an official on an inspection trip to the few towns in existance foretold that the Americano settlers already outnumbered the Mexican population and would soon want to have their own government or join with the United States.

[wildbill]

The minutes of the Congress of the the State of Coahuila and Texas are very revealing about the purpose for which the land grants were offered. The purpose was to grant land to Americans who would then fight the Comanches who were raiding down into Mexico far enough that they could see the Pacific.

The Americans were going to be ‘arrow fodder” to protect Mexicans south of the Rio Bravo and if they wanted to farm the useless land in Texas that the Mexicans shunned, then that was a great deall for Mexico.