Posted on 07/02/2018 5:55:21 AM PDT by Nextrush
German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer has threatened to resign over his CSU party's rift over asylum policy with Chancellor Angela Merkel's fellow conservatives, the CDU. DW has the news as it happens....
The main points:
Interior Minister Horst Seehofer offered his resignation as minister and CSU leader on Sunday after accusing Chancellor Angela Merkel of failing to push through the CSU'S demands on border control at a recent EU summit...…
Merkel and Seehofer are expected to meet at 5 p.m on Monday.
All times are in Central European Summer Time (UTC + 2, Eastern US Time +6)
14:24 The Bavarian Industry Association (VBW) has called on the government to reach a compromise on migration. "There's a lot at stake for our country," its president, Alfred Gaffal, said on Monday.....
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Merkel needs the CSU party of Seehofer to maintain a majority in Parliament.
How serious will Seehofer, leader of the CSU, take this situation. Just his personal resignation or his party dropping out of the government.
Is Merkel finally going down?
A final meeting is set between Merkel and Seehofer at 11am Eastern time US.
This is a fairly built-up opera.
1. For the national election of Sep 2017, they (the news media and the various parties) basically left out any talk over migration or asylum policy. So a lot of this disturbance now is what they avoided last year.
2. The national public TV ‘squad’ is continually putting out bits and pieces of false info, which is making the situation hard to gauge by the regular guy on the street.
3. Seehofer has a list of roughly 63 actions he wants to take...however, the government has forced secrecy over all but one of these items. That one item has forced the idea of government collapse. The other 62 items? Unknown, and people are asking the media why aren’t you discussing these solutions in public?
4. If Seehofer leaves, the coalition might continue on, with the Green Party stepping in. However, most folks are asking...so we get the fake migration agenda with the team (entirely)? And the Greens would get the position of Interior Minister, which a fair number of CDU folks might laugh over and question the wisdom of that idea.
5. This also all leads to two state elections in the fall....Hessen and Bavaria. Total anger by some CDU folks is occurring and they want to enter the Bavarian race (something they haven’t done in fifty years). There was this unwritten rule that the CSU would only be featured in Bavaria, and the CDU in the other 15 states. Some news media folks are suggesting total chaos for the CSU. But I tend to think they are simply creating fake headlines, but this might hurt Merkel and her CDU party more.
6. Where this leads onto? With the CSU out, and the Greens in....mostly a weak and marginal government, with the next national election in 3 years. Their alternate would be to force a fresh new election now (likely in Oct/Nov), and it’d heavily damage the left-of-center folks (the SPD), and Merkel’s party (CDU). Together, I doubt if they could muster more than 45-percent of the national vote.
My gut feeling is that Seehofter leaves....the CSU quits the coalition, and the Greens fill the void. The public just grumbles because there really isn’t anyone around to provide any real solution. Most of the Berlin crowd will tell you...ONLY the EU can fix things....which makes the public ask why bother having a Bundestag?
Then, after the election, they can resume business as usual and maybe form a government together with the Maoist Green Party or something.
The AfD co-leader Alice Weidel says that Seehofer and the CSU are “performing a cheap bit of theater”.
We shall see the truth emerge eventually.
Did u men horse excrement?
Or Congress.
Just what Germany needs....NOT
The CSU needs to get out and turn hard right and then become a viable alternative to the average man on the street who is fed up with Merkel's immigration blunders.
Well...that’s where both of these groups are headed.
The Washington crowd says they can save us all (either via the GOP, or Democrats)...then you sit and watch some fake ‘wrestling’ match where you just end up getting dumped by the side of the road, and the media telling you that things will clear up in the next election, if you just vote the right way.
The Berlin crowd does basically the same dance-act. They’ve got seven political parties, with the public news media helping to arrange national topics in some fake way to make you think your life is improving or getting better. Then occasionally, the Berlin crowd will say that they can’t fix this....only the EU machine can fix this.
A great example of this is trade talk. Basically, the Germans and virtually every single nation in the EU...gave up their trade-talk power, and ONLY the EU can talk for them now. Merkel could stand back and pull the strings on the puppet guys at the EU. But Trump figured that out. So he said....I’m aiming most of these tariffs at Germany...the EU reacts and puts tariffs on the US. Trump reacts and aims counter-tariffs ONLY on Germany, and the EU reacts again with more tariffs on the US. Each time...Trump and the EU (without thinking over it) are both gearing Germany for massive trade problem down the road. Wanna bet that Trump has another counter-counter-tariff in mind that only harms Germany, and the EU will react again?
In ten days, Trump appears at the NATO meeting in Brussels. 99-percent chance that he will announce US troops leaving Germany within two years. All of this is geared toward Merkel having to actually provide leadership within Germany (a talent she hasn’t shown in the past decade).
Well, it seems there is a spat between Angela and Horst and there are going to be many, many committee meetings, but I have no idea what the “spat” is about.
They are scared to death to call the problem exactly what it is...an invasion.
Bunch of gobbledegoop.
East or west of The Pond, it’s all the same uniparty.
That’s the amusing story.
Some French folks think the Macron-out-of-thin-air Party changed things in France. Oddly, he came in with fresh business changes that were all Trump-like in character....suddenly folks got upset because they didn’t expect that type of change. The French just wanted a fresh new looking uniparty, with a younger guy.
The Italians are into the Five-Star party....with is basically the Tea Party crowd-combined into libertarian business, with a slight socialist slant.
You can go country by country, and find the uniparty concept either working, or being rebuilt to look fresh but still the same thing.
I suspect this is all theater diesigned only to bolster the CSU against the AfD in the fall. The trick is giving Seehofer something that will allow himself to posture as strong on migration.
Power in Bavaria is definitely on the table in October and they have to pull a rabbit out of a hat and sham wow the voters to change the polling data as it stands now.
Exactly. But I don’t think what CSU is doing is going to help them. How does Seehofer’s resignation make him appear strong?
If he wanted to appear strong, he would continue as Interior Minister and insist on blocking the border to secondary migration forcing Merkel to fire him. Instead, he just walks away from all that power and allows the coalition to succumb to EU demands without a fight. That’s the weakling move.
I see no way the CDU/CSU alliance can continue much longer. CDU is now left of center, especially on migration, and Bavaria is not going to support that indefinitely.
“The Italians are into the Five-Star party....with is basically the Tea Party crowd-combined into libertarian business, with a slight socialist slant.”
No, the Italians are now into their own Trump - Matteo Salvini of the League party. Like Trump he’s actually doing what he said he would do and has become extremely popular.
Lets remember that Italy has two parties making the new government work.
The Five-Star Party of anti-Establishment reformers who acted to abolish “super pensions” for lower house of parliament members.
And the League with Salvini standing tall on stopping migrants and Salvini saying requiring children to have ten vaccinations to go to school was not needed.
The new government is backing away from a requirement that children be vaccinated to go to school.
That is real reform and real change.
Salvini also wants to slash taxes and institute a flat tax as well as slash regulations.
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