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To: jeffersondem
For some reason I never see D’Souza introduce this quote in his musings.

Possibly because he's too busy making idiotic claims like there was never a single Republican slave owner?

But as for your choosing this particular quote it doesn't surprise me at all. You and your Confederate brethren and sisterhood are the masters of the partial quote and quote out of context. Lincoln went on to say, "... but I hold that, notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man."

Can you show me a quote from any Southern leader showing they believed the black man was their equal in any way? Or a quote indicating that they believed a black man had any rights a white man was bound to recognize? You or D'Souza can respond; I don't much care which.

673 posted on 07/01/2018 12:59:11 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“Can you show me a quote from any Southern leader showing they believed the black man was their equal in any way?”

Here’s what one Southern leader said:

“Ladies and Gentlemen, I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the Southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God’s earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. (Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man, to depress none.

(Applause.)
I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don’t propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I’ll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand.” (Prolonged applause.)


676 posted on 07/01/2018 1:27:35 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg
“I agree with Judge Douglas he (negro) is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment.” (Abraham Lincoln)

Yes, bandy that about “in context.” It's a sure vote-getter for Republicans in 2018.

677 posted on 07/01/2018 1:38:39 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg; jeffersondem
DoodleDawg: "Possibly because he's too busy making idiotic claims like there was never a single Republican slave owner?"

Sometimes posters here like to claim that Republican Grant owned slaves but Democrat Lee did not.
That only possibly works if you don't count slaves which belonged to Lee's wife.

As for Grant, he voted for the Democrats in both 1856 and 1860, so D'Souza's claim remains valid.
Whatever slave Grant owned, he did while a Democrat.

684 posted on 07/01/2018 3:24:26 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: DoodleDawg
Can you show me a quote from any Southern leader showing they believed the black man was their equal in any way?

You think they should be better than Lincoln?

722 posted on 07/02/2018 8:28:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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