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To: FLT-bird; DoodleDawg
FLT-bird: "All the sources I’ve read indicated you are wrong.
Charleston was a major port - one of the richest in the country."

Certainly rich in terms of self-promotion, but tiny compared to New Orleans, Baltimore or St. Louis.
Along the Southern coast Charleston compared to Richmond & Mobile.
Yes, it was bigger than Norfolk, Wilmington, Savanah, Jacksonville & Pensacola, but those all also connected to the railroad grid and could easily serve if Charleston was, ahem, temporarily indisposed.

FLT-bird: "Ever been there? There are some very swanky old houses.
That place had a lot of money.
It was a major port in terms of value."

Sure, but not indispensable either economically or militarily.
When Charleston was blockaded or attacked the Confederacy got along because there were plenty of alternatives.
And that's my only point here.

Indeed, if we can return to those Michigan & Ohio forts occupied by the Brits after 1783, we could easily argue they were more important economically & militarily to President Washington in the 1790s than was Fort Sumter to Jefferson Davis in the 1860s.
Those British forts resulted in what has been called:

St.Clair's Defeat (aka, "The Battle of the Wabash" and "The Battle of a Thousand Slain") made Custer at Little Big Horn look like a Saturday night barroom brawl.
Those British forts controlled the whole of the Northwest Territory (aka "The Blue Wall", aka "Trump Country") and prevented western migration for over a decade.

By contrast Charleston controlled nothing, prevented nothing and was easily bypassed whenever the need arose.


667 posted on 07/01/2018 5:49:21 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

Certainly rich in terms of self-promotion, but tiny compared to New Orleans, Baltimore or St. Louis.
Along the Southern coast Charleston compared to Richmond & Mobile.
Yes, it was bigger than Norfolk, Wilmington, Savanah, Jacksonville & Pensacola, but those all also connected to the railroad grid and could easily serve if Charleston was, ahem, temporarily indisposed.

Baltimore and St. Louis were not in the original 7 seceding states. Charleston was.


Sure, but not indispensable either economically or militarily.
When Charleston was blockaded or attacked the Confederacy got along because there were plenty of alternatives.
And that’s my only point here.

Charleston was quite important and I disagree about the alternatives you cited being that important at the time. It was a major port and one of great importance in the original 7 seceding states.


By contrast Charleston controlled nothing, prevented nothing and was easily bypassed whenever the need arose.

I disagree as do numerous historians. Charleston was a major and very important port in the original 7 seceding states. No, it was not easily bypassed.



668 posted on 07/01/2018 6:58:06 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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