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If We Want to End the Border Crisis, It’s Time to Give Trump His Wall (the winds are shifting)
nymag.com ^ | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/24/2018 3:39:35 AM PDT by cotton1706

Edited on 06/24/2018 5:41:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

So give him his f@#!ing wall. He won the election. He is owed this. It may never be completed; it may not work, as hoped. But it is now the only way to reassure a critical mass of Americans that mass immigration is under control, and the only way to make any progress under this president. And until the white working and middle classes are reassured, we will get nowhere. Don’t give it to him for nothing, of course. It should come with a full path to citizenship for all DACA immigrants, as in the proposed deal in January that Trump first liked and then reneged on, under Miller’s toxic influence. But it should also go bigger: a legislative fix for Flores; massive new funding for detention facilities, humane family-friendly housing, and, above all, much more money for the immigration legal system, now completely overwhelmed by asylum cases. If Democrats can show they want to deal with the humanitarian problem as a whole, and are willing to compromise on the wall, they’ll be in a much stronger position going forward than in the recent past.*


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; buildthewall; elections; immigration; trump; trumpwall
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VERY interesting arti cle from a VIRULENT anti-Trumper.

I have my suspicions that this child crisis was orchestrated to pressure republicans to support the "more moderate" immigration bill (and to cover up the IG testimony of course).

But it didn't work out that way. The conservative immigration bill fell only 20 votes short, and the "more moderate" bill seems to be doomed this week (if it's not pulled altogether).

I think they are learning that the all their usual tricks and intimidations are not moving the needle in their direction.

And once Ryan and Boehner's moderates are gone in November, Amnesty for ANY illegals is a dead goose.

They're realizing that they're up against the wall with Trump (and the electorate)

As I said, the winds are shifting.

1 posted on 06/24/2018 3:39:35 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

As one of the earliest Trump supporters, I agree completely.

This is his issue.

The dems were all against this. The GOP was sold out on this.

This is why Trump won.


2 posted on 06/24/2018 3:49:29 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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".....And once Ryan and Boehner's moderates are gone in November, Amnesty for ANY illegals is a dead goose....."

Music to my ears!

I was once willing to compromise with the vile DACA bunch with an average age of 26 years, far too many of them with criminal records and falling far short of the average educational achievements of their same age group in America. But I've changed my mind after seeing all the hate and anarchy they wish to cause in America. Too many on public assistance and the high achievers are far too few.

Throw them all out and let them get in line at Citizen Servcies in Mexico etc. If they have excelled at something which benefits America, great, welcome them in. But the lion's share of these bums aren't people who add value to our country.

Let them eat cake on someone's else's dime!!

3 posted on 06/24/2018 3:58:06 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: cotton1706
If Zuckerberg gets to put a wall around his 150 acre estates then the United States government can put a wall at either,or both,of our land borders.
4 posted on 06/24/2018 4:01:59 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: cotton1706

Well said!


5 posted on 06/24/2018 4:04:01 AM PDT by Guenevere (The wrath of God has come upon them at last.....)
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To: cotton1706

Once again the enemy is running a ruse or disguise. Hand over citizenship for a wall ... truth is no wall will be built if citizenship is given.. Other assorted goodies are in play for people that should not be in this country But the wall is The ruse and is the disguise and the enemy seeks our (United States) destruction via a ruse and disguise. I cannot wake those that do not know history of mankind. They all voted for hitlery


6 posted on 06/24/2018 4:06:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: cotton1706

I wish someone would have the guts to tell the truth - the people supporting these illegals are demanding the U.S.import and support a peasant class. These invaders have no skills, are bare!y functionally literate and will be a drain on society their entire lives.


7 posted on 06/24/2018 4:17:01 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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Yep and they have methods to destroy a nation. All one need do is look south


8 posted on 06/24/2018 4:19:17 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: no-to-illegals
Once again the enemy is running a ruse or disguise. Hand over citizenship for a wall ... truth is no wall will be built if citizenship is given.. Other assorted goodies are in play for people that should not be in this country But the wall is The ruse and is the disguise and the enemy seeks our (United States) destruction via a ruse and disguise. I cannot wake those that do not know history of mankind.

In 1986, the Left promised Reagan that they would fund and build a border wall if he signed their Amnesty bill. He did. They didn't. Thus 3.2 million illegals were given citizenship, and their births rates are sky high... and more illegals started coming soon afterwards, since they have seen how the Democrats will continue to lie, cheat, and steal to get more of them here.

9 posted on 06/24/2018 4:22:43 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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And the local sanctuary city rat politicians will vow to keep them illiterate unskilled and a dependent voting class!


10 posted on 06/24/2018 4:25:22 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: cba123

xcept..... .the President promised that Mexico would pay for the wall.

He is now insisting that American taxpayers pay for the wall.

That was not the deal


11 posted on 06/24/2018 4:27:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: cotton1706
I scanned the article, frankly I have always found this guy obnoxious, can't read it. However, he might be the canary in the coal mine here, the prog-left knows their internals are horrid and all their minions are trying to create false narratives to be in the game when PDJT's real numbers ( Sabato add 10 ) might be in the 58 to 60% range. They are going to get gobsmacked this Nov, and PDJT will have enough Trumpian's aboard to get the job done and the likes of Schumer and Pelosi will be standing their with their fingers in their nose wondering what the hell just happened and he gets what he wants in January / February time frame in 2019.

The question begs, will it be with or without Majority Leader McConnell because somebody needs to challenge this boat anchors authority and succeed in ousting him...

12 posted on 06/24/2018 4:29:45 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!"i)
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To: cotton1706

Filthy language in first sentence alert. From an immigrant who should have been deported when he was caught smoking pot in public and for pretending to be Sarah Palin’s obstetrician.


13 posted on 06/24/2018 4:31:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: bert

Shut up Bert you negative ninny.


14 posted on 06/24/2018 4:36:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Teacher317

Love your tag line and your post


15 posted on 06/24/2018 4:37:04 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: cotton1706


16 posted on 06/24/2018 4:37:04 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler ( Liberals love all mankind without reservation. Except those who don't agree with them 100%.)
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To: cotton1706

Has anyone noticed the publication of articles with foul language lately? Seems to be a lot of it lately.


17 posted on 06/24/2018 4:37:27 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: cotton1706
they’ll be in a much stronger position going forward

Andrew's an expert on positions going forward as he's so often on the receiving end.

18 posted on 06/24/2018 4:39:01 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: cotton1706

Did Andrew Sullivan wake up from his sex-crazed promiscuous lifestyle and drug-indexed haze of AIDS drugs to see the light — if only ever so briefly?


19 posted on 06/24/2018 4:42:29 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: cotton1706

McJuan once agreed to build the “ damn fence”.

Never happened.


20 posted on 06/24/2018 4:45:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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