Posted on 06/17/2018 5:38:33 PM PDT by rlmorel
Nicely done.
Nicely done.
The Inspector General Report was very important...Here's why.
Check out article.
Thanks, Lucy. Yes, I agree with this summary. Too many Freepers seem ready to dismiss these reports, in accordance with the lying press.
Remember, it doesn’t happen all at once, but one step at a time.
Thank you for this excellent summary.
Great job!
I posted the other day to Freepers who were criticizing the IG and his report and tried to point out how the report has a lot more in it than the media would want you to know.
If it hadn’t been for IG, Horwitz, we would probably have never heard about the anti-Trump texts between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
And you have highlighted even more interesting tidbits from the report and it’s much appreciated.
All her emails were unencrypted, 100% of them. But the relevant question is whether they used link encryption. The answer is a little murky. By the time the server was noticed in 2015, it was using Exchange 2010 with a web interface with HTTPS. That was hosted at a hosting center. But from Jan to March 2009 there was no link encryption, and from March 2009 to Oct 2010 they probably used HTTPS. If IMAP and SMTP were used during that time, it is not know whether they were protected with SSL. Presumably after Oct 2010 they used HTTPS but that is not definitive.
(Thanks for the ping to the list, LucyT...coming from you, that is a compliment.
It was not a revelation to me since I knew what the report was, but...I had stopped remembering at some point it was about the FBI and DOJ behavior, and had fallen into the lazy (for me!) mindset of accepting at some level it was about the Clinton Email Scandal itself...and it was a bit of a shock to me to remember the context.
I am trying to grasp the significance of why it is apparently an important distinction that it was the email server TRAFFIC that was compromised, not a login to the server itself and retrieval of the emails that way.
I can feel the significance of it in my head, I can almost pin it down logically, but I just cannot put my finger on it. It eludes me...I have to go listen to the podcast again. If I can discern his emphasis on it, I will post it here to provide the context.
That’s all true as far as it goes.
But the OIG conclusion was, that despite all the evidence of bias, and all the improper decisions made in the investigation, there wasn’t evidence that bias influenced the investigation outcome.
And Wray, RR and Sessions were able to latch onto that, claim the FBI was vindicated and all they needed was mandatory “bias” training.
Trump is not in a political position to fire them all right now, so they get away with it for the time being.
And the same thing will happen on the FISA warrants and spying/infiltration of the Trump campaign. The OIG will find plenty of incriminating details, but no smoking gun that can’t be dismissed as discretionary decision in an investigation.
This OIG result proves that the Swamp cannot reform itself, and only wholesale firings and institution abolition/restructuring will do it.
Thanks for the ping. Agree with the eight points. The pearl clutching brigade invaded the threads before ink on the report was dry.
I have looked at this as a coup nearly from the first mention, and this is just a larger part of it.
What makes the whole thing irritatingly cloudy (to me) is the way that Hillary’s email issues have been conflated far and wide with the DNC server hack and their emails, and the SpyGate things that are all tied in.
But in its entirety, I think foreign intelligence agencies, the State Department, the CIA, domestic intelligence entities, the DNC, the Clinton Campaign, the FBI, and the DOJ all have a significant finger in this.
There is no doubt in my mind this was a soft coup attempt on a legally elected president.
I personally think it goes all the way up to and including Obama. I don’t think he will be brought to account on it, but I think players like Brennan and Clapper, McCabe, possibly even Comey, and a significant number of underlings will be pinned and prosecuted.
It’s not important because it doesn’t match the narrative and will be ignored. Just like the UN Oil for Food report after we invaded Iraq that totally validated everything Bush said and got zero coverage.
I admit I am more hopeful than you.
I have long viewed this as the single most significant political scandal in the history of this country, and when all is said and done over the next 3-6 years, it will not be able to be ignored and dismissed as they are currently trying so hard to do.
IMO, too much water over the dam.
But I could be wrong, and have to keep that option open as well.
I simply cannot bring myself to believe that our Republic is over yet. I can’t. But if I accept your outlook...than I have to admit that to myself. I just can’t do it yet.
I understand I could be wrong in this, but....this type of thing has always been a personal flaw for me.
C-SPAN should be some interesting TV when they drag
Horowitz’s dieing ass in front of congressional
committee hearings in the next week or two. I wish
they could split the questioning. Let the Democrats
play their softball game first followed by the GOP
hardball matchup.I’d prefer not to waste my time
suffering through Schiffty shit.
Sobering.
Were on the same page.
I think millions are.
However, the LHM also stated that the FBI identified one successful compromise of an account belonging to one of former President Clintons staffers on a different domain within the same server former Secretary Clinton used during her tenure. The FBI was unable to identify the individual responsible for the compromise, but confirmed that the individual had logged in to the former staffers account and browsed email folders and attachments.
That's a server compromised, not just traffic monitoring. It's almost a certainty that the "traffic" was "compromised". That's pretty basic whether the server is in a hosting center or on cable at someone's house. The traffic can pretty much be sniffed. More importantly routers anywhere in the world can sniiff traffic to their heart's content and it is a certainty that foreign intel agents would monitor their network traffic especiallly from a high profile visitor.
So the question is what was the link and was the link encrypted. If they used HTTPS which seems most likely, then it is unlikely that any email was revealed that way (via traffic). For the first two months they didn't have link encryption so there was no protection from traffic monitoring whatsoever.
But there are other possibilities like using IMAP and SMTP with some email clients, and those may or may not have been protected with SSL. For the first two months (Jan-Mar 2009) they definitely were not.
Note that a "traffic compromise" could also be done by an HTTPS compromise (man-in-the-middle attack). I've read that was possible, due to a self-signed cert, until they started using a Network Solutions cert. It's not known if that was done. I have not found a definite source on whether or how long they used a self-signed cert. It might be in the original FBI report.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.