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Rudy Giuliani says Mueller probe 'might get cleaned up' with 'presidential pardons' (trunc)
New York Daily News ^ | June 15th, 2018 | By Chris Sommerfeldt

Posted on 06/15/2018 12:24:42 PM PDT by Mariner

In one of his most forceful attacks on the special counsel yet, Rudy Giuliani on Friday claimed the Russia investigation could get “cleaned up” with pardons from President Trump in light Paul Manafort being sent to jail.

“When the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons,” the former New York mayor told the Daily News.

Giuliani’s stunning remark came hours after a Washington, D.C., judge revoked Manafort’s bail and ordered him to remain behind bars while awaiting his September trial on charges relating to his shady pro-Russian business dealings in Ukraine. The ruling came after Robert Mueller’s investigators alleged Manafort had attempted to tamper with witnesses in the Russia investigation.

Giuliani, who worked as a federal prosecutor for nearly a decade, claimed he had seen no evidence to warrant Manafort being sent to jail.

“I don’t understand the justification for putting him in jail,” Giuliani, 74, said. “You put a guy in jail if he’s trying to kill witnesses, not just talking to witnesses.”

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To: EQAndyBuzz

“...the message by the deep state was heard by the administration.”

And what was the message? I must have missed it.


41 posted on 06/15/2018 2:48:15 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Mariner; All

It’s time to unleash Rudy on Mueller regarding the latter’s criminal malfeasance (or treason?) regarding his CLEAR and repeated warnings prior to the Boston Marathon bombing. DESTROY this scumbags reputation — one he has no business having to begin with.


42 posted on 06/15/2018 3:05:45 PM PDT by montag813
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To: DoodleDawg

“I don’t have any reason not to believe him, so there is nothing Cohen and Manafort can do to implicate him. Any criminal charges they get hit with are due to their own malfeasance, and the trouble they are in are their own fault. The President owes them nothing in that regard. “

Manafort was a two-time “not enough evidence to prosecute” sh!t bird.

Were it not for Trump, the DOJ would not have given him a third look.

Cohen was a two-bit lawyer used to pay off whores.

Were it not for Trump, nobody in DOJ would have known his name.

Flynn was a highly respected general and nation security expert.

Were it not for Trump, he would still be.

All of the 3 named above were prosecuted BECAUSE they have a relationship with POTUS.

Yes, Trump owes them a get out of jail free card.


43 posted on 06/15/2018 3:11:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
All of the 3 named above were prosecuted BECAUSE they have a relationship with POTUS.

But if not for doing something illegal there would have been nothing to charge them with. Mueller is trying to implicate Trump by association. The President is guilty of nothing other than picking some unsavory people to associate with. And that may be poor judgement but it certainly isn't illegal.

44 posted on 06/15/2018 3:16:14 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“But if not for doing something illegal there would have been nothing to charge them with.”

Maliciously prosecuted for Perjury Traps and inflated crimes.


45 posted on 06/15/2018 3:24:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; shalom aleichem; All

I have been corrected.

POTUS can pardon only Federal Crimes.


46 posted on 06/15/2018 3:25:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: odawg

“And what was the message? I must have missed it.”

“We can do anything we want and we will never be punished for it. And there is not a thing you can do about it.”


47 posted on 06/15/2018 3:27:12 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“We can do anything we want and we will never be punished for it. And there is not a thing you can do about it.”

They wanted to get Hillary elected and failed. They wanted to prevent Trump from being elected and they failed. They have tried to block everything Trump has ever accomplished and they failed. They have used the MSM and tried to smear Trump with the American people 24/7 and have failed.


48 posted on 06/15/2018 3:33:37 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Eddie01

Hillary: “Pardon me.”

https://youtu.be/9rBr_WLQsFc?t=41


49 posted on 06/15/2018 3:50:12 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: unlearner

Trump: “Let me talk to you about that after I get into office.”


50 posted on 06/15/2018 3:51:14 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Mariner
Maliciously prosecuted for Perjury Traps and inflated crimes.

A perjury trap is only a trap if you lie. Trump has no reason to lie.

51 posted on 06/15/2018 4:09:00 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: odawg

And they failed. So who is being prosecuted and going to jail for it?

I said Trump was doing a great job. But after all is said and done (and it’s not done by a long shot) the deep state is still there.


52 posted on 06/15/2018 4:20:21 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: WMarshal

I can’t remember what I had for breakfast yesterday LOL
So I don’t remember why Ford pardoned Nixon. Was Nixon indicted/convicted/impeached?

But yes I recall the pardon, but what was the pardon for?
How can yu pardon someone who is innocent until proven guilty?


53 posted on 06/15/2018 4:38:35 PM PDT by entropy12 (1 Mil Daca is the shining object to hide 30 mil low quality LEGAL immigrants in last 25 years)
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To: Mariner

I guess so. How can I arrange a pardon in advance for future crimes? That would be doozy!


54 posted on 06/15/2018 4:41:08 PM PDT by entropy12 (1 Mil Daca is the shining object to hide 30 mil low quality LEGAL immigrants in last 25 years)
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To: onyx; Eddie01; Mariner

Yes, while in the meanwhile Mueller and his gang of democrat lawyers are getting big bucks paid by tax payers, for “investigation” of non-existent Russia collusion by the Trump campaign.

Where is Rip Van Sessions?


55 posted on 06/15/2018 4:44:02 PM PDT by entropy12 (1 Mil Daca is the shining object to hide 30 mil low quality LEGAL immigrants in last 25 years)
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To: entropy12

“I guess so. How can I arrange a pardon in advance for future crimes? That would be doozy!”

They pardon for crimes “that may have been committed” up to signature date.


56 posted on 06/15/2018 4:50:05 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DoodleDawg

“A perjury trap is only a trap if you lie. “

Bullshit.

You can forget, or state the truth contrary to something somebody else remembers.

Where were you on March 3rd, 2014?

Don’t remember?

Strange, we have an email here where you’re telling your Sister you were leaving your mom’s house after a 3 days visit on that date, so we KNOW you knew where you were on that date.

You lied. To a Federal Officer. And that’s a felony.


57 posted on 06/15/2018 4:54:31 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Too bad for Paul Manfort and General Flynn but I think Trump will do pardons after the Mid Term elections. No matter what the outcome is.

What Club Fed is Manafort in? I could do six months there standing on my head. And sharpen up my tennis game. And learn new investment angles from the Wall Street inmates.

A positive mid terms outcome and Trump will be unassailable and will be able knock around Bob Mueller like an old rag doll. Same for his corps of Democrat lawyers. Just flush these pffftttt down the crapper like they crave.


58 posted on 06/15/2018 5:04:56 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: entropy12

Obstruction of justice. Benton Becker was the lawyer who negotiated Ford’s pardon of Nixon:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/us/benton-becker-ford-aide-dies-at-77-negotiated-nixon-pardon.html

...“Acceptance of a pardon is an acknowledgment of guilt,” Mr. Becker said in a 2009 interview for the Gerald R. Ford Oral History Project.

Thirty-five years earlier, he had written in a memo that Nixon’s admission that he was “wrong in not acting more decisively and more forthrightly” in dealing with the Watergate scandal, particularly when it reached the judicial stage, “represents an acknowledgment of obstruction of justice.”...


59 posted on 06/15/2018 5:06:14 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: entropy12
Must wait until formally convicted before a pardon can be granted. None of the bigwigs in campaign have been convicted yet. All charges have nothing to do with Trump campaign.

Forgotten Nixon already have we?

60 posted on 06/15/2018 5:21:21 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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