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To: FranklinsTower
You make some great points Frank. But the problem with comparing weed with some of those other things is that it is a foreign and toxic chemical substance that doesn't elevate society in any way, and actually makes it worse.

Also, I have intimate knowledge of how marijuana can be a gateway drug and how it can lend to the eventual destruction of a person's life and family. How it lends to long term costs in an entire family. All sin is corporate, so to speak.

I am witnessing it right now with a family we know whose two kids are deep into the pot culture because it has been celebrated in the liberal cesspool state that I reside in (for now). It is doing nothing but destroying their ambition, potential and lives by using this “legal” drug on a regular basis.

I am certain that the Founding Fathers wouldn't include this substance as something that illuminates and furthers our freedoms. How does legitimatizing and legalizing pot MAGA? I would argue it does quite the opposite.

205 posted on 06/08/2018 12:58:21 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3)
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To: 444Flyer
it is a foreign and toxic chemical substance that doesn't elevate society in any way, and actually makes it worse.

Like alcohol and tobacco?

I am certain that the Founding Fathers wouldn't include this substance as something that illuminates and furthers our freedoms.

Would they support leaving the issue up to the states? The Constitution they wrote gives the feds no within-ssttate authority over it.

214 posted on 06/08/2018 1:11:02 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: 444Flyer

I respect your response, but I believe that criminalizing pot is barking up the wrong tree.

I have seen the very same things you have seen and more. Having at one time lived in a major US city and saw the whole freak show.

The real battle is a spiritual/cultural war. That is where the real fight should be — not in the area of criminalizing pot.

IMHO, criminalizing pot has the unintended effect of encouraging the rebellious desires many have — it allows them to be “rebels.” Take that away and the whole pot culture of “rebels” begin to fade.

Sometimes it is better to let them be free have at it and they learn their hard lessons. Thus, they freely choose to walk away.

If you really want to help the family with kids deep into pot culture, I would recommend trying to get as many people (if possible kids included) to pray all of the Psalms.

Many very powerful spiritual effects! Psalms are spiritual battle prayers par excellence.

To me this is how you win the real battles. Criminalizing pot only moves the deck chairs...


221 posted on 06/08/2018 1:21:23 PM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: 444Flyer
I am witnessing it right now with a family we know whose two kids are deep into the pot culture because it has been celebrated in the liberal cesspool state that I reside in (for now). It is doing nothing but destroying their ambition, potential and lives by using this “legal” drug on a regular basis.

Over the years I have seen so many family, friends, acquaintances, and dozens of people I responded to on medical calls whose lives had been ravaged by marijuana use. Yet we have numerous trolls here who extol the virtues of marijuana and try to minimize the damage that it does to peoples’ lives. They even have the audacity to portray it as a some type of freedom issue. It is incredible.

247 posted on 06/08/2018 3:41:06 PM PDT by fireman15
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