Posted on 05/30/2018 9:09:46 AM PDT by reaganaut1
ABC had every right to dump her, and political correctness was not involved. In case you havent heard, Roseanne Barr did something really awful and stupid on Tuesday morning.
In a now-deleted tweet, Barr made a racist comment about former Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, saying that she was like the Muslim brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby. A matter of hours later, her hit ABC sitcom was canceled.
Theres no denying that what Barr said was racist, or that she was dumb for having said it. She has since apologized, and has probably also reached the conclusion that it wasnt worth it. In all honesty, Ive never understood why people arent more careful on social media. Ive always sarcastically said that the best thing about Twitter is that not only do you not get paid for your tweets, but you can also get fired for them. It really is one of the more idiotic ways to ruin a career, and I can never make sense of it whenever it happens.
But whats done is done, and theres no turning back. She was fired, and she deserved to be fired. Her comment was racist and unacceptable, and I would not want someone who had made that kind of comment representing my company, either. It really seems that simple to me, but oddly enough, Ive actually seen some conservatives defending her saying that her firing is an example of the rampant political correctness that flies in the face of free speech and honestly, this is something that I just cant understand.
First of all, this is in no way a free-speech or First Amendment issue. The First Amendment protects us from facing consequences from the government over our speech, not consequences from our peers or our employers.
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I think they are going to lose money on this deal.
Dear Katherine, the Planet of the Apes was a science fiction
novel, race was never mentioned in it.
Now then...
” The First Amendment protects us from facing consequences from the government over our speech, not consequences from our peers or our employers.”
If you think that Val Jarrett considers you her peer or that
she doesn’t have the power of a shadow government behind her
you are woefully mistaken.
‘What Jarrett, Iger, Redstone are demonstrating is they can destroy anyone they please by calling them a racist even when untrue as in this case.’
Iger’s statement said nothing about her being a racist; he said it was ‘repugnant, abhorrent, and not in accordance with the networks values’...
how do you prove those statements false...?
This seems a good time to bring this up. I have always been a big Charleton Heston fan, (actually met him back in 1994) and I read something he wrote years ago.
He said that while he was working on the set of "Planet of the Apes" he noticed a peculiar occurrence. All the cast members were human actors, but when it came to taking lunch at the studio provided lunch tables, he noticed the "gorillas" would sit with the "gorillas", the "chimpanzees" would sit with the "chimpanzees", and the "humans" would sit with the "humans."
Very little interaction occurred between actors playing different character parts. Each group self identified as the character type they were playing, and self segregated.
He said it opened for him a mental window on the nature of human social interaction.
Neither was the import business for New York in 1861 yet you insist otherwise on that as well.
Rumor is that Channing Dungey met with Moochelle (who looks like a Wookie; or is that racist?) in the hours before canning Roseanne.
Theres no denying that what Barr said was racist...
How so?
How was it racist?
I wan’t an answer on that question too.
Demonstrate their values.
“Some of you need to get out more.”
Are you saying we need to associate more with racists so we’ll know the terminology?
So since it is CONSIDERED racist by the mentally ill, we must comply with their demands and cease and desist? Sorry, has anyone seen Patrick Ewings face. To not compare his looks to an ape is to deny reality. VJ, looks strikingly like Zira in Planet of the Apes, and apt comparison BTW.
Repulsive in the context of charges of racism. They could be called to testify what they were thinking when Jarrett accused her of being a racist. Their comments were attached to that setting. They cannot escape it.
It was absolutely unnecessary to characterize the termination of their contract by coloring it as stemming from ‘repulsive’ comments. They needed only say “No Further Comment”. Their comments were out of bounds, wholly unnecessary.
Instead, they sought to punish, to damage her brand. They are liable for damages because she did not attack them. They attacked her.
Although they have every right to defend their bottom line, they do not have a right to slander. They can terminate a contract but have no right to attack another corporation “Barr” who did not attack them.
What if Barr had commented that Jarrett reminded people of some character from a strange Radical Muslim Klingon film where the Klingons were white?
Would Iger and Redstone have taken the same action? Yes. This is not about racism, this is about striking against any notable person or group that challenges one of their own country club members.
This isn’t even about Barr anymore, this is about political correctness, about free speech for all of us. As the President so aptly pointed out, they made no comments when he was called so many untrue horrible things. Their hypocrisy is on full display as usual.
Parent(s)? Not true.
When we would go to a restaurant, he would take it as a sign of racism if he was served last, or if he wasn't asked what he wanted to eat first. If he got a ticket, it was because he was "driving while black". He would weigh every word that anyone said looking for a hidden racist significance in it, and he would often find things that he could interpret as "racist."
I later learned that there were a lot of other people who behaved this way, (not all by any means, I've had many friends that never behaved like this) and so I am no longer surprised when I see it manifested elsewhere.
I think Channing Dungey is manifesting this same behavior in regards to this tweet by Roseanne.
It was quite clear from the available information from that era that New York was about to lose 200 million dollars per year as a consequence of the Southern states becoming independent of Washington DC laws.
Oh, sure, they would have still kept their 25% of the overall trade with Europe, but most if not all of that remaining 75% of European trade would have moved to the South.
As you said earlier, it's always about money.
I should not be surprised if this is true. What Channing Dungey didn't do was take a deep breath and act like someone who was clinically detached, as would any ordinary president of a large corporation.
I think she made an emotional decision, not a financial one.
Except when it's even more about Slavery...
It should be obvious as to why characterizing a person of color as the offspring of 'Plant of the Apes' is distasteful. You may disagree.
We should skewer liberals for their politics - not their physical features.
Which is another way of saying it's still about money. It's just that the money was going to different people.
Make no mistake. New York and Washington were both getting rich on slave money. They just pretended not to notice.
“A person of color?”
Aren’t we all persons of color?
What are the politics of Islam and the book/movie “Planet of the Apes”?
Maybe certain individuals and business interests were. But they were far outnumbered by millions of everyday Americans—people who weren't "getting rich on slave money"—who were willing to send hundreds of thousands of their sons and fathers to die fighting the South, in order to preserve the Union and fight for the Righteous Cause of ending Slavery...
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