Posted on 05/13/2018 8:55:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven
On a summer morning last year, Fred Schaub drove his Toyota RAV4 into the garage attached to his Florida home and went into the house with the wireless key fob, evidently believing the car was shut off. Twenty-nine hours later, he was found dead, overcome with carbon monoxide that flooded his home while he slept.
“After 75 years of driving, my father thought that when he took the key with him when he left the car, the car would be off,” said Mr. Schaub’s son Doug.
Mr. Schaub is among more than two dozen people killed by carbon monoxide nationwide since 2006 after a keyless-ignition vehicle was inadvertently left running in a garage. Dozens of others have been injured, some left with brain damage.
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“Nope. Watched women with big purses spend literally that long getting their keys out of the interior.”
My wife was having problems finding her key fob. She searched her purse, looked all around then asked me to help.
I took her purse out to the car and pushed the button ...
Do I have to say what happened next?
My father lived a pretty full life but really enjoyed his football on his 23” color TV in his later years.
I always have a sadness when I think how much he would have enjoyed the 75” 4k TV I have now!
“Good thing their wasn’t a timeout feature.”
Yeah, for sure. But, a time out feature could be deadly. So, doubt that will be designed in. Interestingly my 2015 Silverado still has a key and the 2018 does as well. I have remote start but the fob or key is required to open the door. Then, the key gas to be inserted into the starter key receptacle and turned to on before truck can be moved. I lurk some on the GM truck forum and there’s chatter that GM is behind the times because of this design but I kinda like it.
Nope, but I was referring to the original poster’s question as to why people would want keyless-go. With keyless-go, it is as you describe. With conventional keys, it’s the whole “search for the keys in the purse for 10+ minutes” thing.
That’s what I’ve read too.
LOL - all comments on my silly comment are welcome!
Agreed! I've shut it off, gotten out of the car, had it start beeping and had to do it a couple of times to really turn it off. These cars need an on/off indicator.
Best idea I've seen on this topic! So no problems with CO 'false alarms' due to sensitivity?
“These cars need an on/off indicator. “
Mine has two.
1. Tachometer
2. The display between the tach and speedometer which provides status and prompts.
Atmospheric CO is 0.2 ppm. Alarms are required to activate between 70 to 400 ppm depending on duration.
My F-150 does that, with a prompt that allows you to override the shutdown if you're just parked with the engine running to keep the A/C cool, or something.
My new Subaru w/keyless requires foot on brake to start, but does not require foot on brake to shut down. (It will shut down w/or w/o foot on brake).
I don’t understand why it is so convenient not to use a key.
Agree. I also don’t understand how digital controls, i.e. heat/ac, radio controls, etc., are better than “old fashioned” buttons and levers.
Pain in the arse and a huge distraction.
I just bought a car last month, and I bought one with a regular ignition. I’d prefer to know where the key is when I’m driving the car!
” I bought one with a regular ignition. “
? Are you referring to a distributer system or electronic ignition system?
“I’d prefer to know where the key is when I’m driving the car!”
I don’t need to know where the key is. I have keyless ignition switch.
“My new Subaru w/keyless requires foot on brake to start, “
Interesting. I have to actually depress the brake pedal.
There was that one time...
Rabbit ears...
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