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Scouts' Honor?
Steyn On-line ^ | May 4, 2018 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/05/2018 6:04:02 AM PDT by Twotone

Two nights ago with Tucker Carlson, I discussed the decision of the Boy Scouts of America to drop the "Boy" bit. The ruination of a great civilizing institution has been accomplished in a mere two decades. As I wrote three years ago:

In the late Nineties, the BSA said no to gay scoutmasters. I was on the floor of the Democratic Convention in Los Angeles in 2000 when they had some Eagle scouts as an honor guard - and in my section of the crowd everyone booed. And I remember thinking, "Man, these Dems are nuts. Booing boy scouts?"

But the booers won. Over the next decade, gay-friendly churches (Episcopalian, Congregational, and the other post-Christian ones) booted the scouts from church halls where they'd met for decades; Disney cut them off the list of approved charities to which their employees were permitted to donate their "Ears To You" fundraising proceeds; other corporate benefactors from the US soccer league to Lockheed Martin severed their ties ...and the number of new recruits to scouting dwindled remorselessly, and so did their finances. And in the end the boy scouts' leader caved - but too late. In the blink of an eye, the boy scouts had been, as my friend Ezra Levant likes to say, "de-normalized", and banished to the fringe, and nice soccer mommies don't want l'il Jimmy playing on the extremist fringe.

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1 posted on 05/05/2018 6:04:02 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Another formerly-great American institution destroyed by the liberals.


2 posted on 05/05/2018 6:07:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Twotone

” nice soccer mommies” are the worst offenders of all

Mush brained women feeling guilty if little Jimmy can’t have a gay Scout troop leader

Mush brained women who feel virtuous if they attend a church pastored by married lesbians

Mush brained women who feel guilty if little boys in dresses cant join the Brownies

This is the real downfall


3 posted on 05/05/2018 6:09:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Twotone

There are two Americas. One is Progressive Humanist and one is Traditional Christian (in culture, if not actual faith).

It is child abuse for the people of the latter to hand their children over to the people in the former for any reason.


4 posted on 05/05/2018 6:10:11 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: silverleaf

Soccer moms. The worst. Single moms in Scouts - pretty much woke. Two kinds - those looking for a situation, and those who are looking for fatherhood for their kids. The former are a mess, and get the stinkeye from other parents.

There are the ‘dishwasher parents’ - put your kid in the Scouting dishwasher hoping they come out parented.


5 posted on 05/05/2018 6:12:16 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Twotone

Is there a badge for fisting?


6 posted on 05/05/2018 6:17:17 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: Twotone

EVERYTHING THE LEFT TOUCHES THEY DESTROY

“Progressives” must destroy anything and everything that doesn’t validate their beliefs.

They just could not abide an organization dedicated to helping young boys mature into normal, honorable, reverent, self reliant young men.

First they let the homosexuals and other sexual perverts in to have a go at the young boys minds and bodies.

Now they let the young girls in to destroy the last vestiges of the Scouts’ masculine culture.


7 posted on 05/05/2018 6:24:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: I want the USA back

Lord Baden Powell is now spinning in his grave! For a number of years, with the negative changes in the Scouting Movement worldwide, he was just slowly rotating, now it’s a full blown spin!

The left destroys everything the touch or can get their hands on.


8 posted on 05/05/2018 6:39:19 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: I want the USA back

The BSA is not only alive but well.

The nature of the organization has changed but the Scout Oath and Law have not. Many marginal troops and packs have disappeared mostly because they were unable to exist in the current world of innumerable calls and opportunities for a kid’s time.

The tendency now is for Troops and packs to be very large. The numbers require excellent leadership and orgnization missing in the small marginal units. The program is still there to offer experience nd education inan extremely wide variety of subjects. Of primary iportance is for a scout to develop hands on leadership skills.

Scouting was deserted by many churches because it was not adequtely under their control and was not Sunday Schoolish enough. New pseudo scouting organizations sprouted but they lack the depth of the BSA progrm aand do npt have Philmont or Sea Base experiences.They can’t allow “Eagle Scout” on a resume

Queer fear provoked the marginal unit exedous.

The fact is that there are essentially no queers. What’s moree, the boys know who they are. Moms need not fear. The boys will take care of a queer problem. The queers in question if they exist are also at school and well known.

Regarding girls, there has been the presence of women as troop leaders for many years. Their presence in large Troops and Packs are of great value in performing tasks need in a large organization.

These valuable mothers also have daughters. The daughters miss out on the formal program of advancement and leadership training. The current
BSA experiment will attempt to solve that problem of discrimination with in families. The effort to recruit girls might not even work and will need to be abandoned. However, producing young women who have participatd in real active troop advancement and leadership program far outweighs the fears of iconoclasts mandating segregation. Afterall, once the educational process is complete, the sexual segregation so fervently demanded ends in the work place.

Your statement is totally incorrect and seems to represent gross ignorance


9 posted on 05/05/2018 6:50:19 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Iron Munro

I completely agree. And if conservative Christians start an organization to separate themselves from the queer progressive poison and the feminist extremists, the courts will force the integration of the queers and anti-masculine feminazis into the new organization.

Queerism has been forced on us as normal. Masculinity is being outlawed.


10 posted on 05/05/2018 6:51:46 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Twotone

At this point, allowing ones boys to spend a night with ANYONE they don’t know really well (i.e., close friend or close family), is simply WAY TOO DANGEROUS. Scouts used to be safe for boys, not anymore.


11 posted on 05/05/2018 6:53:43 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: I want the USA back
people have to step up and make other opportunities for both boys and girls...people with a little money and dedication....

if you are raising children, you know what to do...

12 posted on 05/05/2018 6:54:23 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Thibodeaux

I would say you and I will have to agree to disagree. Completely.


13 posted on 05/05/2018 6:56:28 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: BobL

Foolish post indicating your ignornce


14 posted on 05/05/2018 6:57:05 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: silverleaf
you mean "mush brained daddies" don't you?...you know, the kind who sit around watching sports all day and then have sex with their magazines?....

it shows that so many men, maybe yourself, have to use Viagra to have sex...and it shows when we read reports of low sperm counts and low testosterone levels in western men....

and who voted for this new "boy scouts?.....men, of course...

15 posted on 05/05/2018 6:57:39 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Blue Collar Christian

I know of what I speak and you are ignorant of the facts


16 posted on 05/05/2018 6:58:08 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Iron Munro
"Now they let the young girls in to destroy the last vestiges of the Scouts’ masculine culture."

sooo, now you're blaming the young girls...?????

the young girls did this?....

17 posted on 05/05/2018 6:58:50 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Blue Collar Christian
"Masculinity is being outlawed"

go tell that to the 300 infant girls found murdered in the trash pile.....

18 posted on 05/05/2018 7:00:58 AM PDT by cherry
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To: silverleaf
Mush brained women feeling guilty if little Jimmy can’t have a gay Scout troop leader
Mush brained women who feel virtuous if they attend a church pastored by married lesbians.
Mush brained women who feel guilty if little boys in dresses cant join the Brownies.

Very good points except it's not just the women anymore.

It's the pussy-whipped men too.

Remember those photos of all the 'men' walking around wearing those pink pussy hats at the Women's March
in Washington the day after President Trump's inauguration?


19 posted on 05/05/2018 7:01:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: cherry
sooo, now you're blaming the young girls...?????
the young girls did this?....

Are you really that obtuse or just trying to be cute?

Of course it's not the girls.

It's the adults behind the change.

20 posted on 05/05/2018 7:04:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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