Posted on 05/04/2018 9:45:55 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
[Full Title] Federal Judge Catches Robert Mueller Using Preexisting FISA Title-1 Warrant Against Paul Manafort Instead of Title 3 Authority…
Today U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III appears to have caught on to an explosive issue CTH noted yesterday. In building the case against Paul Manafort, special counsel Robert Mueller’s team used the pre-existing FISA Title-1 warrant that was originally applied to U.S. person Carter Page and the Trump campaign.
Under normal criminal investigation any search warrant or surveillance warrant would normally proceed through U.S. courts, under Title-3, where the Mueller team would need to show probable cause for a warrant. However, by using the Title-1 warrant from the FBI counterintelligence operation, as extended by AAG Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller was able to use far more intrusive and unchecked searches and seizures for his criminal probe.
The media, and broad media-consumption public, are currently unaware the Mueller probe was simply a continuance of the 2016 FBI counterintelligence operation. Most people think the special counsel investigation is a separate issue. It’s not.
However, in addition to a scathing rebuke of the underlying prosecutorial premise, ie. Mueller trying to keep the originating structure hidden, Judge Ellis demanded today that Mueller unredact the August 2, 2017, instructions from AAG Rosenstein
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
Woops, then sorry for the confusion and thanks for the correction ....
Didn’t Judge Ellis’s Fourth Cousin Once Removed die 86 weeks ago? If so, his OUTBURST at the ‘unimpeachable’, ‘respected by everyone’, Mueller team might be explainable.
...and obviously, Judge Ellis must be replaced in this case.
Can evidence seized under a FISA warrant be used in a criminal prosecution of a United States citizen? Probably not, since FISA warrants are meant to serve a purpose other than criminal prosecution. If not, then Manafort may well walk. This seems to me to be one of the most serious questions raised so far in the Mueller probe with very interesting 4th Amendment implications.
“Can evidence seized under a FISA warrant be used in a criminal prosecution of a United States citizen? Probably not, since FISA warrants are meant to serve a purpose other than criminal prosecution.”
While you are correct, and Mueller knows it, that’s not where the problem lies. The problem lies with Mueller’s thugs now knowing where to look. So they’ll find a way to get the same evidence, legally.
A good defense attorney can still prevail, by peeling back the onion, and asking questions like “...so what led you to look in trunk of the car of Manafort’s college roommate?”. But it takes an attorney who knows the game, knows that probably ALL of the ‘evidence’ that Mueller is using criminally was never obtained via due process.
According to Rush yesterday this is NOT Judge Ellis who is white. OF course the MSM got it wrong again. This iRAT congresscritter who was caught stuffing $90K in his freezer and using the National Guard to retireve it during GWB famous hurricane (cannot remember which one it was - where thousands died in the New Orleans stadium-NOT)
I dream of that also, but IMHO it is never happening until we have a replacement GOP party consisting of a conservative majority. By that I mean not filled with the likes of Paul Rino and Mitch McTurtle. Paul Rino actaully fully supports Mueller’s activity - google it. I have posted the link multiple times on FR threads in the past couple of days.
Everything about the Mueller investigation has sprung from the fruit of the poisonous tree aka the Steele dossier. If the source (the “tree”) of the evidence or evidence itself is tainted, then anything gained (the “fruit”) from it is tainted as well. Even I can understand that simple logic.
This is getting beyond my rudimentary understanding of law...
BUT, if Mueller was using a FISA Title I warrant to surveil Manafort and associates, just which US Citizens were un-masked? Did the Special Counsel have access to that un-masked data?
Manafort was a filthy money launderer and a scoundrel, but was their ever ANY evidence he was involved in espionage?
Just what information was used by the FBI/DOJ to obtain a FISA warrant against Manafort? OR, was he a named person in the original FISA warrant used for Carter Page?
Or, did Mueller take Search and Seizure actions not covered by a Federal Warrant?
Mr. President, the American people must see those warrants. And we MUST see Mueller’s full charter, unredacted.
There is NO national security cause at risk that is greater than the cost of not exposing the truth of this matter.
Wasn’t this FISA warrant obtained through the false pretense of the Steele dossier?
Yes.
If the Special Prosecutor is not working under the outlined instructions, but is instead working under Obama administration warrants, I think he is wide open for dismissal.
“Ellis seemed amused and not persuaded”
This is the classic modis operandi of the US DOJ.
They are quite similar to the State Prosecutors of the Soviet Union. The only difference being the words on their badge.
Neither cares about the law, nor the rule of law.
Their only concerns are enemies of the state.
“Can Congress use it’s oversight role to demand an end to the Special Counsel investigation. “
Yes.
Two ways: One is to deny any further funding, by law.
The other: Deny DOJ authority to outsource ANY federal investigation, by law.
Any POTUS would sign either.
You probably need to read CTH a little more to better gauge how inaccurate they are. Most of bradmans predictions do not come to pass.
Take this current article for example. Bradman claims the judge made some distinctinion between Art 1 and art 3 fisa. NOWHERE in any press report of this news item does any reporter quote the judge saying any such thing.
Bradman has a well documented history of having numerious theories, substituting speculation for facts, and inventing convoluted conspiracy nonsense.
The bottom line is that CTH aka mark bradman makes money off advesrtising clicks every single time someone click on his nutwad page to read his latest interpretation. He doesnt care if his theories come to pass. He makes money as long as people keep reading.
Buyer beware.
“So if these seditionists are getting off scott free with retirement”
Just because they are retiring now, does not mean they could not be prosecuted later.
Just like McCabe.
If they are suddenly retiring upon inquiry from the IG, any competent prosecutor knows how to bring them to heel.
If ever convicted of a crime, they would lose their Federal Retirement too.
“The IRS (aka Lois Lerner) and the FBI/DOJ (Comey, Rosenstien, McCabe, Mueller, et al) are undeniable proof of the importance of our 2nd Admendment.”
The absolute greatest gift one generation has every given their progeny.
In the history of man.
That's good to know.
But is there anyone in DC, other than Reichsführer Müeller, who's wants convictions?
Why does this judge find Mueller in Contempt of court?
“But is there anyone in DC, other than Reichsführer Müeller, who’s wants convictions? “
I see little evidence of that.
But I hold out hope.
It’s better than a shooting war with a million dead, leaving us vulnerable to foreign invasion.
Given what "law enforcement" is doing now to innocent civilians in this post-Constitution republic, we're more vulnerable than we've ever been.
So who's the Attorney General these days, anyway? And where the f**k is he?
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