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America and the EMP threat
americanthinker.com ^ | 5/3/2018 | Daniel Ashman

Posted on 05/03/2018 8:35:00 AM PDT by rktman

A congressional committee report states that a large electromagnetic pulse (EMP) inundating America could cause 90% of Americans to die. The EMP is inevitable. The dead Americans are not.

Pry explained that an EMP can happen in a few different ways: if an adversary attacks America using nuclear weapons, or naturally via a large solar storm. The reason why a large EMP hitting Earth is inevitable is that solar storms are inevitable. They happen regularly. The only question is when a large one will cross Earth's path. For instance, NASA reported that if a solar superstorm from 2012 had happened just one week earlier, it would have blasted the Earth with a catastrophic EMP. We are playing this slot machine every day. Eventually, we're going to hit the jackpot.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: emp; friedelectronics; prepper; preppers
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To: Ancesthntr; Freedom56v2

Another Note...

While the consensus is that Starfish Prime caused the limited streetlight outage in Hawaii, it is far from a proven conclusion.

The most widely accepted theory within DOD is that it was the bright light from the explosion that triggered photovoltaic switches on the already overloaded lines, causing them to switch off/on to quickly and therefore burning the fuses.

NOT the EMP.

And, yes, I do have some expertise. Though it’s limited.

I have 10 years in military communications to include several years in the MEECN network and over a year as a DCA facility auditor. That included training in the effects of EMP from the DOD point of view...

The necessary grounding, shielding etc. As well as expected practical effects at distances.

Of course they could have been lying to us, or perhaps they didn’t know what they were talking about.

I have no way to independently verify that. But I suspect they were expert and genuinely wanted those responsible for carrying out the nations essential communications to be prepared for the likely outcome.


141 posted on 05/03/2018 4:05:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: rktman
The EMP is inevitable.

Bull.

142 posted on 05/03/2018 4:06:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: George from New England

Mr.GG2 is a general contractor. He built me a predator proof coop. Even rats can’t get in. We had a couple of rat snakes get in looking for eggs that’s about it. If it was not for that they would all be coyote or racoon dinner. :-)


143 posted on 05/03/2018 4:07:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: central_va
The EMP threat is a joke. Nothing to see here.

Agreed. While a nasty solar eruption could cause problems, the enemy nation-state/terrorist group threat is essentially non-existent. Much ado about nothing.

"One Second After" is a fun read, but it definitely belongs in the fiction section.

144 posted on 05/03/2018 4:14:38 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: laplata; central_va

The worst power impact from an EMP would be at the local distribution level. That means some transformers would need new fuses or have to be replaced. No big deal.


145 posted on 05/03/2018 4:16:26 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: PA Engineer

I had never even heard of knob & tube so looked it up. Ah, most new construction use ended in the 1930s, while construction here (other than pioneer buildings) really didn’t get going until the 40s (Hanford area war project). So I hadn’t run across it.


146 posted on 05/03/2018 4:35:27 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: central_va
There will be a slight inconvenience at most.

Bit more than a minor inconvenience. The problem is not cars being rendered inoperative, it will be the fact that the signal system will need major work just to start working again, and you will be chasing faults for years. Ever see what happens to traffic when stop light go dark, now imagine every stop light in a major metro area goes dark at once.

147 posted on 05/03/2018 4:38:59 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: central_va

Where they give kV as a unit is that really kVA, or not?


148 posted on 05/03/2018 4:42:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Ancesthntr
The Carrington Event speaks for itself. So does Starfish Prime and Soviet Test #184. Is our electrical grid different than in 1859 or 1962? Yes, certainly. In some ways it is more vulnerable, in some ways less so. We are also FAR more dependent upon electrical and electronic devices than at any time in history, so any pulse (from whatever source) that would effect transformers, long lines OR electronic devices would have effects - perhaps devastating effects. What I cannot stand here (and in society in general) is the Normalcy Bias (which I incorrectly listed as “Confirmation bias” in my Post #33) that says that such effects are impossible - people need to get informed before shooting off their mouths (or keyboards).

Talk about vulnerable, at MCI we actually had a long haul fiber optic path taken out by a lightning strike. Our field techs found it and fully documented it. Our fiber had a copper conductor within the fiber sheath for technicians to use to communicate between the pull boxes. The technicians found that lightning hit a tree, arced through sand, and went into the copper conductor which heated like a fuse and crystallized the fibers in that section of fiber. The techs that found it figured no engineer would believe it so they dug up the fulgurite with photos to prove it.

149 posted on 05/03/2018 5:57:41 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Mariner
I have 10 years in military communications to include several years in the MEECN network and over a year as a DCA facility auditor. That included training in the effects of EMP from the DOD point of view...

Tech Control?

150 posted on 05/03/2018 6:07:57 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Yeah, It would be a cake walk./s


151 posted on 05/03/2018 6:15:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

It’s a hell of a long way from the apocalypse like you believe it to be.


152 posted on 05/03/2018 7:00:09 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: laplata

Not trying to be snide here, but the refineries might be down for awhile, but I’ve seen people get gas without electricity, you’ve just got to jury rig a hand pump to get it out of the underground tanks.

Not saying there wouldn’t be problems once the tanks were dry, but if people don’t go sight seeing, might have enough to get by...if they are careful.


153 posted on 05/03/2018 7:33:35 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

really? Cause I bet it won’t be the part of the “herd” that needs to. It won’t be the condom swallowing, Tide Pod swallowing challenge idiots, no, it will be the sick (and not just old people), the elderly (who MADE) this Country what it was, and is.

Think before you speak. Their are alot of people who would be part of that “herd” you’re talking about who mean the world to their families.


154 posted on 05/03/2018 7:36:18 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike

I understand what you’re saying. But it would be more complicated than that. Trucks supplying food, grocery stores, farmers, hospitals, the banking system and everything else which is reliant on electricity, etc, etc would all be affected. It would be chaos. It would have a snowball effect.

The worst part would be the idiots.


155 posted on 05/03/2018 8:08:15 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

We should harden the grid just in case.


156 posted on 05/03/2018 8:13:07 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: central_va; AntiDemocrat
Click here.
157 posted on 05/03/2018 8:54:06 PM PDT by rdb3 (Hi! I'm worthless to one, but priceless to two. What's my name?)
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To: rdb3

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/vehicles.html

“The one thing that does have a broad level of agreement among those who have studied the matter is that obtaining fuel after any kind of electromagnetic disaster would be a matter of extreme difficulty. Any particular vehicle may or may not run, until it runs out of fuel; then it will not run any longer until the fuel production and distribution system can be re-started.”

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So if a few stations invested in a hand pump system
BEFORE an EMP attack emergency transportation could exist for years?


158 posted on 05/03/2018 9:13:03 PM PDT by GOPJ ( If you want a picture of the 'Deep State' imagine a boot stamping on a human face- forever. Orwell)
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To: GOPJ

I’m not studied up on this matter. I was just investigating certain posts on this thread, and...


159 posted on 05/03/2018 9:23:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (Hi! I'm worthless to one, but priceless to two. What's my name?)
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To: higgmeister

Aye, and TACAMO and DCA.


160 posted on 05/03/2018 9:27:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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