Posted on 05/02/2018 1:48:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Kanye West has done it again, folks. Kanye West has tweeted out something about slavery that is literally brilliant if you have the capacity to understand the underlying point to begin with, which civil rights racial activists do not. People like Marc Lamont Hill and some of these others that are going bonkers over Kanye do not understand his comment.
He said (paraphrased): Slavery, 400 years? If its 400 years, its a choice.
I know exactly what Kanye West means. Do you know what he means, Mr. Snerdley? Its brilliant, but the problem is its gonna go over everybodys head. It requires me to translate this today. Now, I think people like Marc Lamont Hill, some of these other race industry people do know exactly what Kanyes talking about. Its one of these things where he comes up with a brilliant turn of phrase but he could have made his point a lot simpler if he would have just gone in and said what he really means here, instead of needing translation.
Im not trying to take anything away from him. Well, very simply hes saying, Slavery? Are you trying to tell me theres still slavery, 400 years? If theres 400 years of slavery, at some point you gotta be choosing it because we had a civil war where it ended. We defeated slavery hundreds of years ago in this country. If you still think youre a slave, you gotta be choosing it, because there isnt slavery in America today, and, if you want to claim that youre a slave or if you want to claim there is slavery, thats cause you want to. Youre choosing it.
Its brilliant, Im telling you, but, you see, it requires someone like me who knows exactly what hes saying. Why didnt he say it like I just said it? Who knows. Thats how he wanted to say it. I translate it, I understand it, and hes right on the money with it! Hes right on the money! You know, the editrix at The Limbaugh Letter sent me the monthly list of possible themes for the cover. And one of the possibilities was Kanye and whats happening. But we dont go to press for three weeks.
I cant say, Yep, lets do a whole cover on Kanye, cause they might get to him in two weeks. They might get to him and make him turn it all around and make him apologize for it cause theyre gonna be relentless in going after him. They cannot allow this to happen. I mean, Kanye walking into TMZ and getting into it with Harvey Levin and so forth, the big push is gonna be on.
Kanye West Stirs Up TMZ Newsroom Over Trump, Slavery, Free Thought
I mean, I would love to devote a cover to translating Kanye and what hes doing and why I think its important. But, what if were in the middle of writing it, we got our publication date, and Kanye goes on TV and apologizes and says he was on drugs and doesnt even remember anything he said? We could still do it. (interruption) Would he change I asked you if you thought what Kanye was doing might change peoples votes. And you said, No, but its still important.
Well, there are obviously a lot of people thinking Kanye could. So, anyway, were gonna get to that even though Ive largely gotten to it here, but theres more. Theres more. But I had to translate the slavery comment for you, cause Im watching people react to it, and theyre acting dumbfounded and stupid and saying Kanyes an idiot. And hes not. Hes right on the money. He went for the artful turn of phrase rather than the direct hit, as I just translated it to be.
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RUSH: Heres Jeremy in Brainerd, Minnesota. Youre next, sir. Great that you waited. Thank you. Hello.
CALLER: Yes, sir. I thank you. Longtime listener, and I appreciate everything you do every day, sir.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: Im calling up about Kanye West. I was watching this show last night, and they were talking about, you know, they labeled him as a conservative, you know, and I think that by putting labels on people that support Trump, you know, theyre not necessarily conservative.
I mean, people have conservative principles, and they follow certain morals and everybody has different ways of doing that, but I think weve become more liberal every day. Were sympathetic and empathetic to stuff that we never knew was out there before, you know, social media, everything, you hear stories, you hear this, and it changes your views.
RUSH: Are you a conservative?
CALLER: Yes, I try to be a conservative.
RUSH: So what is it specifically that bothers you about them labeling Kanye as such?
CALLER: The return. You know, all it takes is for Kanye to say that hes not a conservative, and then that takes their whole argument and it shifts it somewhere else where theyre trying to have him align with somebody, when Trump himself is not a conservative. You know, I dont think Trumps a conservative. I think hes a Democrat and a Republican.
RUSH: Trumps not ideological.
CALLER: Yes. Yes, sir.
RUSH: I was the first prominent voice in America to point this out.
CALLER: Yes, you were.
RUSH: Ive continued to point it out. But the reason theyre calling Kanye conservative, because in their minds, they are destroying his reputation by doing so. Thats why theyre doing it.
CALLER: Yes, sir.
RUSH: But notice theyre not disputing Kanyes arguments. Theyre not taking him on substantively. Theyre attacking him personally: Hes insane, hes a lunatic, hes a drug addict and now hes conservative!
CALLER: Yes.
RUSH: And so this is how they do it. This is how they discredit people who they fear with becoming effective.
CALLER: And the same reason why they aired the end of the TMZ, you know, that gentleman talking to Kanye misinterpreting what he said or what he thought he said, instead of asking him how he meant to say, You know, the 300 or 400 years, you know, it felt like a choice. You know, when they aired that, they didnt air the I didnt get to see the response from Kanyes original statement.
RUSH: I dont think anybody did. Frankly, the level of education, sophistication, and understanding
CALLER: Yes.
RUSH: the lack of it. This is why it was necessary for me to translate this in the first part of the program. Cause I guarantee you I guarantee you the education of this country is so woefully inept that I knew what Kanye was trying to say. Plus, if you put it in context with what he said yesterday and the day before, it makes perfect sense. Hes talking about independent thought. Hes talking about breaking away from orthodoxy, breaking away from groupthink, freedom of thought, freedom of movement.
If you understand if you remember what he said yesterday and the day before then his remark, slavery, 400 years? He knows slavery ended here in the 1800s, for crying out loud. What do you mean, theres still slavery? If we still got slaves, its by choice. Well, thats a knee-jerk, Oh, what do you mean by choice? Especially somebody in the liberal entertainment media is gonna go bonkers with that. Its, I think, a brilliant comment.
But they are trying to disparage him by calling him a conservative. Just because we wish they wont doesnt mean theyre gonna stop. But I understand your thinking about it. But how about that, folks? Hey, look, he shouldnt be called a conservative. Its gonna kill us. Thats not all that (chuckling) hot, either. Anyway, I appreciate the call, Jeremy. Thank you very much.
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RUSH: Before the last one had a chance to simmer down, Kanye West caused another stir, calling American slavery a choice in an interview Tuesday. When you hear about slavery for 400 years, for 400 years, that sounds like choice, West said on TMZ Live after questions on his pro-President Donald Trump posts and pictures that caused a dust-up last week. You was there for 400 years, and its all of yall? Do you feel like Im thinking free and feeling free? West asked the TMZ employees in the room.
I actually dont think youre thinking anything, TMZs Van Lathan quickly cracked back at West, as many would in the ensuing hours. Lathan said while West gets to live the elite artists life, the rest of us in society have to deal with these threats in our lives. We have to deal with the marginalization that has come from the 400 years of slavery that you said for our people was our choice. Symone D. Sanders, political commentator and CNN contributor, led the anti-West chorus on Twitter.
Kanye is a dangerous caricature of a free-thinking black person in America, Sanders tweeted. And there you have it! Symone Sanders, CNN. Kanye is a dangerous caricature of a free-thinking black person in America, Sanders tweeted. Frankly, I am disgusted and Im over it. Also (I cant believe I have to say this): Slavery was far from a choice. Others put it more briefly. Slavery wasnt a choice, Russ Bengtson tweeted, but listening to Kanye is.' Now, this is one of two things.
Were either dealing with genuinely blockheaded, ignorant people which is very likely or we are dealing with people in a panic over what Kanye West is doing and cant permit it to happen. Kanye Wests point is crystal clear to me when you put it in context with everything else hes been saying recently. He has referred to the plantation. Hes referred to the requirement that all black people think the same way, the requirement that all black people support the same candidates, that all black people write the same way, vote the same way, talk the same way, hate the same things, oppose the same things.
In his world, that isnt free thinking, and he wants to be a free thinker. He wants to be able to think what he thinks without being told he has to think this or that or not think this or that. He wants to be able to think what he thinks! To him, being told what to say and what not to say and who to vote for and who not to vote for how to behave and how not to behave is the equivalent of slavery! And he doesnt want it anymore.
And in his view, people in the black community who are willing to be intimidated into saying all the same thing, voting for the same people, opposing the same stuff, theyre not free thinkers. They may as well be under the command and orders of masters, and he doesnt want that. He thinks if you have been allowing people to control you for 400 years, that at some point you have made a choice. And hes exactly right! African-Americans today are free to support and think whatever they want, but theyre really not.
Look what happens when any of them steps outside the plantation. Kanye West was clearly saying and has been saying for the last week or so. But in specific relationship to 400 years of slavery, slavery officially ended in this country when 500-plus thousand people gave their lives in part to end it. It was called the Civil War. Back during slavery there werent any Kanye Wests on the entertainment circuit. There werent any Oprah Winfreys.
There werent any of the outside successes in academics, in sports, in education. We didnt have any black heroes. They were all slaves. But that ended, and all Kanye is saying is if you want to continue to be a slave even after slavery is over, then you have to be choosing it. You have to be choosing to support Democrats. You have to be willing to allow somebody to tell you what you cant say and cant think. And hes saying, I dont want that anymore. I want to think for myself.
Its crystal clear what the guy is saying, if youre able to put it in context with what hes previous said and if you have a basic understanding. Why is it that 90 to 93% of the African-American vote votes Democrat every presidential election? How does that happen? Well, we all know the answer to it. Kanye is saying, its slavery, in the sense theyre under orders. Theyre under pressure; they better follow suit. If they dont, look what happens to em. And you can say, Look whats happening to him as evidence. So he wasnt saying that people back in the plantation days were choosing to be slaves. Hes talking about people today.
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RUSH: Now, I got an email during the break, Im so glad you explained the Kanye West comment. I really had no idea what he was talking about, and I just thought he was, you know, a raving lunatic and I didnt attach much to it. So Im glad you explained it. Well, we have Kanye. Im gonna let you hear Kanye in his own words as it happened yesterday on TMZ. They have a program on the network called TMZ Live, and Kanye was the guest. And the first bite here, this is a discussion about Kanyes recent support of Trump.
WEST: People say, Feel free, but they dont really want us to feel free. I felt a freedom in, first of all, just doing something that everybody tells you not to do. For me to wear that hat means I want to make America great in my own way. Theyre attacking me with these smoke screens that Im not gonna fall for. The mob tries to tell you what to think! The mob trying to make all blacks be Democrats for food stamps and stuff. Its the mob. By the way, youre just talking to the emotion. When you hear about slavery for 400 years? For 400 years? That sounds like a choice. (chuckles) You was there for 400 years and its all yall? Its like were mentally in prison.
Kanye West's Rant In TMZ Office (Extended Cut)
RUSH: So I dont know what the original report of this was, but when you hear all of that and in context with what hes talking about thinking free, splitting away, being his own guy, wanting America to be great based on his own ideas for it; thats why he wears the hat its clear what hes saying here. He wants to break away from the plantation of liberalism, which is enforcing thought and voting and behavior.
He doesnt want any part of it and to him, its modern-day slavery. And its a choice. Blacks do not have to vote Democrat if they dont want to, like they had to be slaves back in the days of the antebellum. They didnt have any choice then. They do today! So hes simply saying (translation), If you refuse to break away from the mob, then you must be choosing it. I dont see whats even wrong about this. I dont even see whats controversial when you hear the whole thing in context.
Look, he may not be the most articulate guy in the world, but thats far more articulate than hes being given credit for. Did you have any trouble understandings what he was talking about there? Crystal clear, was it not? But of course thats not how it was reported. Kanye West said people have been choosing slavery for 400 years, and of course the context of that is, Kanye West says American blacks chose to be slaves! Thats bad. Thats He didnt say that and hes not saying it now. Hes saying there isnt any slavery today.
But if you think theres been slavery for 400 years, then youve gotta be choosing it because you dont have to be on the liberal plantation. You dont have to say what they tell you to say, you dont have to think what they tell you to think, and you dont have to vote the way they tell you to vote. And hes simply saying he wants to feel free, but that they dont want him to feel free or anybody else. Heres the next bite from this interview
WEST: (shouting) This reality has been forced upon us! It is a choice, just like when I said slavery is a choice! We can make our own reality! We can talk about history, but not too long. We need to talk about our now, because we can fix and start loving each other now. I say we have no enemies! We dont have enemies! Black people have a tendency to focus and march when a white person kills a black person or wears a hat. But when its 700 kids being killed in Chicago, its okay! Its okay for blacks to kill blacks!
RUSH: Oh, no, no, no! He didnt go there? This is why hes a target, my friends. This is what breaking away from the plantation looks like, and it isnt permitted. Thats why Auntie Maxine is talking about hes gotta get his mind right, that Kanye is stepping out and he needs to be brought back in. And Ill tell you what, this is why the Crips put a hit out on the guy yesterday. The Los Angeles Crips, the street gang and now maybe the Bloods are gonna get in the deal too. Why should the Bloods leave it all to the Crips? If theres gonna be glory in takin out Kanye, then the Crips and the Bloods are gonna want to split some of the credit here. Hes exactly right in all of this.
Heres one more bite. Lets see what this one is
WEST: Its like, the media and the liberals and the echo chamber and all that is having the most sore loss (sic) of all time. Were gonna just keep putting out Its like torture porn! Were gonna keep showing you negative, negative, negative, negative when these are human beings. Even like with George Bush, people said, Dont apologize. Wait a second! I just saw George W. Bush pushing George Bush Sr. as a wheelchair and he just lost his wife. Do you know how bad I would want to go to George Bush and say, I said something in the moment, but when I look at you as a dad and a family member, Im sorry for hurtin you?
RUSH: Oh, no! If you remember, Kanye West had something really horrific to say about George W. Bush, essentially called him a racist, doesnt care about black people. I think it was after Katrina. Remember that? I think he said, George Bush, he doesnt care about black people, something like that. Now he sees George W. Bush pushing his dad in a wheelchair at his moms funeral, and all of a sudden sees him as a human being and now wants to apologize. This is not gonna be permitted.
We have one more. Lets wrap this up
WEST: I have never been into politics. I just love Trump. Thats my boy. Obama was our opioids and made us feel like everything was good. Trump is a human being also. And he is doing a lot of things to actually help business owners be able to go past all these fake laws and rules. Einstein says the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I believe that Kim Jong-un didnt believe that Obama was crazy enough to come at him. Sometimes you need some some crazy [bleep] to change something. Steve Jobs is crazy. Now we all on Steve Jobs phones. They say Trump is crazy. They say I am crazy.
RUSH: Yeah, they do. And the reaction to Kanye West from the civil rights community is verifying and confirming everything hes saying. For example, this morning on CNNs New Day, Fredo Cuomo spoke with former NAALCP president Cornell William Brooks and Temple University professor Marc Lamont Hill about Kanyes comments about slavery on TMZ. And Fredo said, Marc, what is your take on the situation and the response from the TMZ host?
HILL: What Kanye said was inaccurate. Its disrespectful to our ancestors. Its disrespectful to everyone who resisted every single day. Slaves resisted every day, not just people who jumped off ships, not just people who killed their masters, not just people who ran away, but people who had endured this peculiar institution for centuries. And what Kanye said was something that was just completely wild and inexcusable, but part of a pattern that were starting to see. I dont want to dismiss the mental health of piece of this. Theres some significant questions within his camp about his stability right now.
RUSH: Right. Right. This guy is obviously threatened by what Kanye said. Kanye wasnt talking about the slaves that jumped off ships or killed their masters. Kanyes talking about people today who choose to think that they are under the same kind of control with lack of freedom as there was 200 years ago. Kanye West is simply saying that if youre gonna conform to what a bunch of people tell you you have to say, think, and do, you are choosing it! And that hes done choosing it! He wants to think free.
Thats Marc Lamont Hill. (imitating Hill) Kanye, theres some serious discussion of mental health here. I dont want to go too deep into this, of course, but theres some talk in the Kanye camp about his stability right now. Yeah. And here is the former president of the NAALCP, Cornell Williams Brooks.
BROOKS: The young people who are in the streets today resisting police misconduct and voter suppression are literally the moral heirs of their slave forbearers, they stand in the same lineage and legacy. And so when he understates their resistance, hes not only insulting the past, but insulting the present. Kanye is in effect betraying the very art form that made him rich. Hip-hop and rap represents a musical tradition of rage and resistance, not compromise, accommodation and commercialization. Can you imagine Public Enemy embracing Ronald Reagan?
RUSH: Yeah. So you see these people are quite bothered by this, and they are purposely not getting it. Theyre not getting the point. What Kanye is in effect saying is that people like Marc Lamont Hill and this guy, William Brooks, are the modern-day masters. And theyre the ones demanding that every African-American do what they think, say what they want em to say, vote the way they say.
And he doesnt want it anymore. He wants to break free, be a free thinker and live his own life. He doesnt want to be on their plantation. And I have to think they know that. Theyre just using this talk about Kanye doesnt understand our forebears, Kanye doesnt understand that people protesting in the street today are every bit the slaves that their forebears were and still engage in the resistance. Kanye says if theyre doing that and thinking that, theyre choosing to, cause they dont have to be anymore.
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RUSH: Okay. So a smart aleck in the email said, Where does this 400 years of slavery come from? Easy. Easy. And Kanye obviously knows it. Heres how it works out. The beginning of slavery, as it relates to the New World, has been traced to 1619. Dont doubt me. I dont have time to give you the history of this, but when you look at slavery in the U.K. and then in the New World as it was remember the Pilgrims and Columbus. Well, Columbus 1492. The beginning of the slave trade in the New World was 1619, okay?
In 1865, the 13th Amendment, slavery ended, 1865. Thats 246 years. You with me so far? Kanye is adding the 150 years to the 246 to get to 400 years. Hes adding the years after the 13th Amendment to include that there are some people who are still choosing to be, think, whatever, like slaves. And the resist movement is made up of exactly people like that.
You cant miss it. Look at these guys, Marc Lamont Hill. The black experience in America today is no different than slavery or has its roots. They havent graduated from it. They havent moved on from it. Reparations movement, forebears, slavery, still the defining element of black life in America. It isnt unless they want it to be! There isnt any slavery in America today, and there hasnt been since 1865.
This isnt complicated. Unless you have been brainwashed by the civil rights community, which wants African-Americans to believe that slavery essentially never ended, that the life experience of an African-American is essentially no different today than it was 50 years ago, a hundred years ago, 200 years ago.
And they do that and they say that to keep these people under their control and to keep them in victim status and to keep them dependent! And therefore to keep them voting Democrat! Its pure politics.
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RUSH: Michael in Largo, Florida, great to have you, sir. How you doing?
CALLER: Thank you, greetings from Largo, Florida. Dittos. I just want to ask you one question. Now that Kanye West is breaking open the free thinking thing with black people, do you think its still appropriate for the news and everybody to reference the black community as if they all think alike and they just have to ask one person to know what everybody else thinks?
RUSH: Naw. Thats gonna continue for quite a while.
CALLER: Yeah. Appreciate it, Rush. Thats all I wanted.
RUSH: You bet. No. Its gonna continue because thats what Kanye is breaking away from. He doesnt want to be in that group that is monolithic thinking, acting, behaving, but its a political construct. Look, Ive mentioned this I dont know how many times. The Democrat Party, not so much I guess its still true of the modern Democrats. This bunch is just a collection of radical leftist extremists now.
But not that long ago, the Democrat Party literally was made up of different coalitions who were very different, but they at least had two things in common: They believed in Big Government, and they hated Republicans. And thats what kept em unified. And there was the black community. And then there was the feminist community and the gay community and the whatever else community, Big Labor. And all these coalitions vied for a seat at the table of power at the Democrat Party.
For the longest time, the Reverend Jackson occupied the seat of power for the black community. How did he keep it? He had to keep delivering the black community to the Democrat candidates every election. The Reverend Sharpton began to compete with the Reverend Jackson. And then, you know, when Obama came along, that threw a monkey wrench into things, because Sharpton didnt go along with the fact that Obama was authentically black.
The coalition had some trouble but they unify around their hatred of Republicans and their belief in big, socialistic government. And thats what kept that coalition together. And thats how you kept your seat. And so Kanye breaking away threatens the people who have the seat of power at that Democrat Party, and thats why hes gotta be kept in line and every other malcontent does too.
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RUSH: Okay. So Kanyes now tweeting out what he really meant to say. Hell eventually come across what I said about it and, well, lets just see. I dont want to prejudge anything here or jinx anything, but this will get straightened out, youll see.
We know what he meant.
The ones who will try to destroy him over it understand too.
But they will make believe they don’t.
They will twist it to say Kanye thinks slavery was a choice way back when, when it wasn’t.
But I don’t think Kanye really gives a #### about what other people say or think.
In the past, for better or worse, he was this way.
Can’t see him changing.
NEVER EVER thought I would agree with, no less start to like, him.
This bears repeating: “And he doesnt want it anymore. He wants to break free, be a free thinker and live his own life. He doesnt want to be on their plantation. And I have to think they know that. Theyre just using this talk about Kanye doesnt understand our forebears, Kanye doesnt understand that people protesting in the street today are every bit the slaves that their forebears were and still engage in the resistance. Kanye says if theyre doing that and thinking that, theyre choosing to, cause they dont have to be anymore.”
That’s exactly right, Kanye is saying that if you want to be a slave, that’s your choice. Slavery ended 150 years ago.
I might add that even then it was a choice. “Freedom or death” was as much a thing then as it is now.
Rush’s caller is right that they want to discredit him by calling him conservative, but they also want to marginalize those who call themselves conservatives - rather than deal with the substantive issue.
Now I get it; get what exactly Kanye meant.
He was more correct on the history of slavery than the TMZ interviewer. He was in affect suggesting that if you - the TMZ interviewer, are thinking you’re like a slave, today, then that is your choice.
Heck, That’s pretty much nails it on the head as far as I am concerned.
Why can’t you just say that in five pages like Rush, so that you can sell ad time?
Kanye is exactly right. Before Trump was president the rap world loved finding a way to include DJT in their lyrics....they want to live his life
“Heck, Thats pretty much nails it on the head as far as I am concerned.”........”Why cant you just say that in five pages like Rush, so that you can sell ad time?”””
I know, which is why I quit listening to Rush (G-d love him). Even trying to read the text-script of an on-air segment of his is painful to follow. You know there is a point he will make somewhere, after all the diversions and secondary issues, but dam if I can wait for it 99.99% of the time. Call me “former frustrated Rush listener”.
I love to listening to him while I work. It keeps me from looking at the clock. If I miss something he is talking about, I don’t worry, he will repeat it a few times before the top of the hour.
In 1850 their bodies were in chains but their minds were free. Today their bodies are free but their minds are in chains.
I freed a thousand slaves, and I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves. - Harriet Tubman
Kanye has a difficult time expressing himself clearly at times. Rush and Scott Adam’s interpretations help.
Booker T. Washington, black author post civil war wrote an essay called ‘Drop down your bucket” about a ship off the coast of Brazil, out of sight of land, and was in desperate need of water. Having signaled another ship requesting water received a reply of Drop down your bucket letting them know that they were in fresh water from the outflow of the Amazon. He was telling black America that they do not need help from anyone. They need to help themselves.
250 years later we are still getting the same attitude as in B.T. Washington’s time. Help me! Help me! No matter what we do for black America it is never enough and never will be. Those that have help themselves continue to improve in society and there are many of them as examples. Kayne West is right. If you think it is 400 years then something is wrong with you. And yes, take it personally.
Even like with George Bush, people said, Dont apologize. Wait a second! I just saw George W. Bush pushing George Bush Sr. as a wheelchair and he just lost his wife. Do you know how bad I would want to go to George Bush and say, I said something in the moment, but when I look at you as a dad and a family member, Im sorry for hurtin you?
Wow. I am speechless.
The other thing Kanye was pointing out is that blacks today were not around 400 years ago, or even 200 years ago, to truly know what slavery was. Part of the freedom he is advocating is not living in the past—not letting the past control you.
Can anyone imagine if a white gang leader was making public death threats against a white celebrity for agreeing with or expressing some admiration for Obama?
Same here - told my wife I never dreamed I’d be sticking up for or rooting on a rapper....
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