Posted on 04/30/2018 6:10:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
The concept of a right to privacy is deeply rooted in our culture. It is the simple idea that individuals in American society have the right to keep their government from snooping around their stuff.
There is no specific law defining privacy and its parameters. Instead, we infer the right to privacy from our history, our Bill of Rights and the United States Constitution.
One of my favorite legal opinions was issued by the Supreme Court in 1886. (That was a time when the court saw good or bad, and the opinions were simple. In more recent history, the Supreme Court positions are more complicated because it has taken many self-indulgent positions that sound like, okay, maybe its wrong, but I really want it to be right, sooo This is why Justice Neil Gorsuch was such an essential addition to that bench.)
Back to 1886. The Supreme Court zealously defended the right to privacy, calling it the very essence of constitutional liberty and security. The case was about the governments demand that a man incriminates himself by producing private papers to be used against him. The Court dubbed this an invasion of the mans indefeasible right of personal security, personal liberty, and private property. This was a time when judges still remembered oppressive British invasions of privacy and the resulting prophylactic protections that our Founding Fathers set up to protect us from government invasions, so they were very privacy-friendly. The Fourth and Fifth Amendments run almost into each other, the Court declared while explaining how strongly our Constitutional rights protect the the privacies of life. When I was in law school reading those words, the “Fourth and Fifth Amendments run almost into each other,” I imagined a mom and a dad running towards their child from opposite sides, and then running into each other and banging their foreheads. That imagery is probably what the Court was trying to project. We are the kids, and our enumerated rights are our parents. The job of the parents is to protect the children. That’s what our rights do for us. Vigorously defend us as a unit.
Later cases by the Supreme Court discuss the idea of privacy as something a bit more loosely connected —imagine sprinkles of protection around our Bill of Rights. The Court no longer seems to fawn over privacy in the 20th century like it did in the 19th century.
In the case of the Golden State Killer, law enforcement didn’t obtain the DNA from a testing company sharing site like 23andMe. Instead, they used a DNA sharing database called GEDmatch.com, a free open-source website that allows people to upload their genetic raw data retrieved from genetic testing companies in order to find other relatives or to find out more about their ancestry. GEDmatch also allows people to delete their samples from their database.
Of course, sharing your private DNA with others exposes you to potential dangers, most of which we cannot fathom today. Should you not choose to engage in the unique opportunity of finding long-lost relatives or explore your history just in case your cousin is a serial rapist? No —that’s ridiculous.
In the case of the Golden State Killer, law enforcement didn’t obtain the DNA from a testing company sharing site like 23andMe. Instead, they used a DNA sharing database called GEDmatch.com, a free open-source website that allows people to upload their genetic raw data retrieved from genetic testing companies in order to find other relatives or to find out more about their ancestry. GEDmatch also allows people to delete their samples from their database.
Of course, sharing your private DNA with others exposes you to potential dangers, most of which we cannot fathom today. Should you not choose to engage in the unique opportunity of finding long-lost relatives or explore your history just in case your cousin is a serial rapist? No —that’s ridiculous.
We need to be honest with ourselves: all of the new technologies that let us do more and know more, from the iPhone to Amazon’s Alexa to 23andMe, will have privacy implications. That has always been the trade-off when using these technologies.
We need to remember that our legal system continues to protect reasonable privacy rights as technology continues to evolve. Don’t forget that in 2014, the Supreme Court protected our smartphone privacy, noting that, “Modern cell phones are not just another technological convenience. With all they contain and all they may reveal, they hold for many Americans ‘the privacies of life,’” (quoting my favorite 1886 Supreme Court decision).
Friends and relatives were never meant to protect you from the government. Your privacy rights do not extend into their personal life, body, or property. You don’t have a privacy right in their DNA. Friends and relatives can and will share all kinds of things about themselves which may later be linked to you, including their DNA. These are all realities of life that are not part of “privacy” in the sense of the law.
Privacy needs to be understood for what it is: the right for you to choose not to share. That’s it. Privacy does not extend into the realm of protecting you from the things that others can share about you.
My grandfather used to say, about certain cousins, that if anyone asked, we aren't related to them. This will complicate that scam. Thanks Kaslin.
As for the guy in California I can't see a problem with the way they caught him.However,a Constitutional expert could,I suppose,change my mind on that.
I read somewhere that the NSA is paying 23andme and Ancestry.com for their DNA database.
I wouldn’t be surprised. DNA is the ultimate metadata and tool for network surveillance.
If one of your relatives is in the database, then you are easily identified.
If a relative decides to upload his DNA profile to an open site like GEDmatch, then he has pretty much uploaded his whole side of the family, because a DNA search is going to note family members.
I am really disheartened by so many FReepers and Americans in general using the line “I’ve not done anything wrong, so I have nothing to worry about.” That’s an incredibly naive way of thinking. Read “Atlas Shrugged” as a primer to personal privacy, and understand that the government’s aim is to make everyone guilty of something whether by intent or accident. Eventually we’ll all be guilty of something, and now they’ll have a way to determine your guilt through the use of self-submitted evidence.
23andme and Ancestry.com require a court order.
GEDmatch does not.
People are using the former two to get their DNA profile, and then bypassing the security by uploading their profile to the open GEDmatch site.
Really? And what if 23andme freely offered it, for a $500 million consulting contract?
“because a DNA search is going to note family members.”
Help me understand....
how would this occur?
Given the high current medical costs I can see some corporate employers using this to screen job applicants for any type of hidden health defect that could cost them higher insurance premiums in the future.
I have been tempted to sign up for a DNA scan.
We have some family history that is rather odd, and traits that suggest both sides wandered rather far afield from where we “should” have been.
Our name suggests Germany, our history has some Finnish, and our nose looks for all the world like a Roman nose.
On my Mom’s side... Well we stopped looking after we found my twice great grandpa had at least two families in different countries. And we were not sure which one we came from.
All kidding aside, DNA is a rather specific identifier.
DNA matches at these sites include family members, because these are sites specifically looking for family members. They are geared to looking for your relatives.
My lost brother (abandoned by our mother) was found because his daughter did 24 and Me.
That would violate their own terms.
Besides, there are plenty of other open sites.
But has anyone read any of the articles about how inaccurate many of the DNA sites are? What they can’t define on the sample they simply take an educated guess at. DNA is hardly as conclusive as many think. It is not at all like on TV crime dramas where it is the catchall that ultimately nabs the bad guy.
Best guess ancestry?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/technology/ct-dna-kits-23andme-20180117-story.html
Modern courts have turned this innocuous phrase into a bludgeon to destroy privacy rights.
23, typo.
Multitasking is not always my friend
Do you understand all the criminal laws, civil laws, administrative laws, and common laws that exists at the local, state, federal, and international levels? If you know and understand them all in the way a good prosecuting attorney or litigator or enforcement official understands them and are certain that you have not knowingly or unconciuosly broken these laws or have caused others to do so or have benefitted from others doing so then I accept your profession of innocence. Besides it is not for you to determine your own place innocence for it is the place of jury.
David uploads his DNA profile to GEDmatch to locate his relatives.
David’s brother Tommy is a serial killer.
The police have Tommy’s DNA, but they don’t know who he is, as there is no match in their databases. He’s just a serial killer to the police.
They upload the serial killer’s DNA profile to GEDmatch.
GEDmatch says that there is a 95% chance that the serial killer is David’s brother.
Off to a judge we go with that to get a warrant to sample Tommy’s DNA.
Tommy’s DNA matches the Serial Killer’s DNA.
We got our man.
We just found a match to the DNA found at the crime scene. The match is to the posted DNA of a woman, but she is the sister of the DNA found at the crime scene. You are looking for the brother of this woman.
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