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Dachau liberated
History ^ | 29 Apr 2018 | Anon

Posted on 04/29/2018 7:21:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: Gay State Conservative

“Visited Dachau about 30 years ago on a dreary,depressing winter day.I was at a loss for words then...just as I am now.”

I used to want to visit one of these places.
Not sure I would want to do that anymore.


21 posted on 04/29/2018 8:01:34 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Rummyfan

I have a friend whose grandfather was liberated from Dachau by the 42nd & 45th Infantry Divisions & the 20th Armored Division of the United States Army. She wrote that her grandfather was born on April 28 but always celebrated April 29 as his birthday.


22 posted on 04/29/2018 8:03:11 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I watched Eisenhower’s films of the camps in YouTube. Hardest thing I had to watch. Shocking when German townspeople walked in and then out of the camp.


23 posted on 04/29/2018 8:08:03 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: LouAvul

Oh yeah... Recommended reading, “From Swastika to Thunderbird”, a history of the 45th Division.


24 posted on 04/29/2018 8:09:11 PM PDT by OKSooner (Takin' em off down here, boss!!)
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To: LouAvul
I had posted a rather lengthy reply to your post about the 45th Division and their unit insignias... Don't know what happened, it didn't make it to the thread.

To summarize... Believe it or not, the swastika is a Native American symbol. It just has a different meaning in Native American lore other than "National Socialist Party".

My understanding is that it's associated with a sense of family and community, derived from logs in a campfire. Google some pictures of young Jackie Kennedy nee Bouvier and you'll see her as a teenager, dressed up for a costume party as an "Indian Princess", wearing a dress adorned with a Native American swastika.

I could drive you by one estate in northeastern Oklahoma that has swastikas on the gates, built before the war, and painted over to deemphasize them during the war.

So the swastika was actually every bit as Native American a symbol as the Thunderbird, although the Thunderbird was, and still is, an infinitely better unit insignia for obvious reasons.

No man has ever seen the Thunderbird and lived to tell about it, you know. :)

25 posted on 04/29/2018 8:18:53 PM PDT by OKSooner (Takin' em off down here, boss!!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I visited Dachau also. It was on a bright sunny day in July. There was No birds singing, no noise- in short very strange. It seemed like even the animals stayed out of the area.

Very strange.


26 posted on 04/29/2018 8:19:31 PM PDT by njmaugbill (Nj)
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To: dfwgator; Rummyfan
Never fully grasped the scale of the vast size of these camps until I saw this drone overflight of Auschwitz.

BBC Broadcast of Drone Flight Through Auschwitz

Chilling

27 posted on 04/29/2018 8:20:00 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: dfwgator

Jasenovac was the worst of all


28 posted on 04/29/2018 8:33:04 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: FreedomPoster
Perhaps this is what he meant?:

On 29 April 1945 Dachau was surrendered to Brig. Gen. Henning Linden of the 42nd Infantry Division of the U.S. Army by Untersturmführer Wicker.

29 posted on 04/29/2018 8:37:02 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

No, this guy has done many, many speaking engagements, and his tale does not involve generals. There wasn’t a general on the front line smelling the burnt bodies, finding piles of dead, finding the emaciated prisoners. I’m fairly certain the general came up later.


30 posted on 04/29/2018 8:40:31 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Rummyfan

The world said NEVER AGAIN

But Europe is drifting in that direction again.
This time they are letting the muslims do most, but not all, of the dirty work.

And to a lesser degree, Jew Bashing is on the rise in the USA too - especially among leftists, leftist colleges, etc.


31 posted on 04/29/2018 8:41:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The art of government is to take money from one to give to another - Voltaire)
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To: FreedomPoster

Well then history has it wrong at every location I checked, as they all say the 45th & 42nd liberated Dachau.


32 posted on 04/29/2018 8:44:26 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: dfwgator

My Opa was in buchenwald


33 posted on 04/29/2018 8:44:43 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: vooch
Jasenovac was the worst of all

With the full knowledge of the Catholic Church.

34 posted on 04/29/2018 8:44:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BamaDi
what was so funny was we were staying in Munich and when we asked how to get there, the Germans played dumb and acted like they didn’t know what we were talking about......

You just head out Dachauer Strasse to Dachau... You can take the S-Bahn too.

35 posted on 04/29/2018 9:02:30 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Visited Dachau about 30 years ago on a dreary,depressing winter day.I was at a loss for words then...just as I am now.”

Same here. I was in the military and several of us took in Oktoberfest in Munich, and after some drinking went sight seeing. That Oktoberfest buzz was killed immediately when walking into “Arbeit Macht Frei”.

If that wasn’t enough, a tour bus showed up while we were there, full of the American soldiers who had liberated the camp, and their spouses.

We walked behind that group and just listened....

Dachau was so close to town, to civilization. Everyone had to know what was going on in there. Everyone.


36 posted on 04/29/2018 9:07:29 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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I remember when we went to Poland several years ago, I had some trepidation about going to Auschwitz. Had a great time in Krakow the night before, but knew the next day was going to be a very sobering experience.

Nothing really prepares you for it, and I’ve seen a lot of movies and documentaries.


37 posted on 04/29/2018 9:11:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Deaf Smith
Here in 2018, 42nd Rainbow Division would mean something completely different.

Reminds me of Stalag 17 where they all troop around singing "And we'll all be gay again, when Johnny comes marching home"

Liberals and perverting our language.

38 posted on 04/29/2018 9:13:32 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: BamaDi

They played dumb...
Something that is So heinous as
The Death camps would have to be denied.

I visited Schindlers’ grave in Jerusalem,

The Death camps...don’t think I’ll go.


39 posted on 04/29/2018 9:16:05 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Rummyfan
Dachau, eldest of all the camps, the only one to be run continuously from its inception in 1933 to the end of the war. The first wave of camps was run by the SA, and all of these were shut down within the year, but not Dachau. It was run by the SS, at the time a very small organization. What happened there was so monstrous I shall not pollute this site by recounting it. Those curious about it - and you are warned - may be interested in Nikolaus Wachsmann's KL - A History of the Nazi Concentration Camps.
40 posted on 04/29/2018 9:23:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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