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7 Forces Driving America Toward Civil War
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2018 | John Hawkins

Posted on 04/21/2018 5:19:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/21/2018 5:19:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

All you have to do is ban the federal government from doing anything more than maintaining the military, the money supply, and raising the revenues to pay for them.


2 posted on 04/21/2018 5:24:33 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I am increasingly optimistic that the curtains will be pulled back and that the average American (80% of the population) will see that they have been lied to and manipulated by evil people and that the country has no good reason to be so divided. It was all a ploy to keep certain people in power. Personally, I think the country is about to turn a corner and head to a much brighter future.


3 posted on 04/21/2018 5:27:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kaslin

duh


4 posted on 04/21/2018 5:29:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Kaslin

The Black Lives Matter tribe has actually reverted to the feral presla very africanization. Large portions of American cities have been transformed into wilding villages


5 posted on 04/21/2018 5:30:44 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Kaslin
The next civil war won't look like the last one. It won't be two sides neatly divided by a geographic north and south, each with its own chain of command. It'll be sectarian violence made up of many different groups with different goals and values marked by fluid leadership, if any at all, and flexible allegiances with other groups. They'll all be vying for control and they'll be mixed in all across the country.

It's going to be a messy affair.

6 posted on 04/21/2018 5:30:52 AM PDT by Drew68
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>>If and when we get to that point, all bets are off because if regions of the country see an advantage to splitting off from the United States at that point, they will do it.

If?

7 posted on 04/21/2018 5:31:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Personally, I think the country is about to turn a corner and head to a much brighter future.

Like your optimism.

I don't share it, I like it and hope you're right and I'm wrong.

8 posted on 04/21/2018 5:31:33 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Brilliant

So....how do you do that?


9 posted on 04/21/2018 5:31:37 AM PDT by Popman (Wisdom is not what you know about the world but how well you know God. 8)
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To: Brilliant

The problem is that the other side doesn’t want that.


10 posted on 04/21/2018 5:37:42 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Drew68
It'll be sectarian violence made up of many different groups with different goals and values marked by fluid leadership, if any at all, and flexible allegiances with other groups.

Not really, but you are right -partially. In areas like the mid west and most of the south there will be almost zero sectarian violence. The "normals" will rule via state houses and suppress the tiny crazies who will emigrate anyway.

The coastal areas will not be so lucky. In those areas it will be a hybrid of the original where the "war inside a war" i.e. Kansas will be larger on the "mixed" areas of the coasts.

The USA is huge and you cannot project onto the entire political landscape what will happen in NY on to the rest of the USA in a scenario of a general collapse of FedGov.

11 posted on 04/21/2018 5:40:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Popman

I think if you started off and limited Senators to two sixty-day sessions per year...you’d make it hard to continue business as usual. The other thing you could do....pass a law that each Senator must live for sixty days per year in their home state, and the max they can be outside of the US is seven days per year.


12 posted on 04/21/2018 5:46:20 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

bump


13 posted on 04/21/2018 5:47:34 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: usconservative; ClearCase_guy
The author and his article are like Pravda..lies sprinkled with some truths to make it smell like news.

In the summer of 2016, John Hawkins said If Donald Trump Is the Nominee, Hillary Clinton Has Already Won in November..

In this new article, notice how he simultaneously supports the Second Amendment yet says twaddle like The Right has gotten much more tribal since Donald Trump rose to prominence. What? Who's side are you on, dude?

His Lack of Shared Culture issue sounds more like Reichskanzler Hawkins misses the days when Nationa Review and New Republic had a monopoly on political opinion.

Call me Pollyanna but I too am hopeful for the future. The economy is doing well, Deplorables are in the ascendency and Trump got elected and is MAGAing all the time. In contrast, if this jackwagon had his way, we'd have NO Second Amendment guarantees but at least we'd have a shared culture under Hillary and NR would have more hits than Breitbart.

14 posted on 04/21/2018 5:48:20 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: Kaslin

We’re already in a civil war. It’s currently a cold one, but make no mistake, we are deep in it. Until 2016, our side lost virtually every battle in the media, academics, and courts. However, we won a decisive battle with Trump’s victory. Is this the start of a turn in war or a blip not offsetting the progressive road to ultimate victory? I cant say that I know just yet. If the Dems take back the government in November, conservatives and our views continue to be banished from social media and the public square, and the courts continue to take away our rights, i’m Not sure that 2016 wasn’t just a slight deviation from the inevitable showdown with the totalitarian left.


15 posted on 04/21/2018 5:51:21 AM PDT by Nicojones
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The correct reason?

Cowardice on the side of the correct to retaliate quickly, firmly and with certainty against the lawbreakers. Failure to nip this shit in the bud had a big effect.

16 posted on 04/21/2018 5:51:24 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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What's happening now is that the left wants to change the USA into a socialist/quasi communist country without a bloody revolution. They think they can cheat, lie, steal, finesse and slough their way to political victory without out violence.

We are not sheep. IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WAY!

17 posted on 04/21/2018 5:57:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Drew68

Like, maybe, Syria.


18 posted on 04/21/2018 6:00:28 AM PDT by arthurus (@)
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To: central_va

More of a when I’d say.

I’m a little north of 40, let’s start the party. I want a good future for our kids.


19 posted on 04/21/2018 6:00:43 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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The problem is deeper than liberals not believing in the Constitution. They reject the fundamental premise that makes the Constitution necessary. . .that being that it is THE PEOPLE who, having all endowed authority to govern, must give their consent to how their powers are to be organized and distributed. . .which is, essentially, what the Constitution accomplishes.

Progressive since the time of Wilson, have rejected this fundamental notion and have sought to replace it with the idea that elites, our betters, should be the final arbiters of the "social good." They believe government should be unfettered from the constraints placed upon it by the Constitution.

In other words, they are tyrants seeking a reign of tyranny and they are stone-cold evil and anti-Christ. ..which, btw, is why they hate Christianity. Christianity. .or more specifically, Jesus of Nazareth, informs the individual of one's ultimate value. . that "God so loved the WORLD, he gave his only begotten Son." People who accept such a value, can no longer be governed by tyrants. .and that is the essence of this "civil" war. . God or no God. . .America must chose.

20 posted on 04/21/2018 6:04:14 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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