Posted on 04/19/2018 7:58:22 AM PDT by Patriot777
Curing cancer ‘not a realistic goal,’ doctors focus on managing instead of curing disease
Over the last five years, cancer research has seen the “greatest advances,” including a new approach to treating the complex disease as a “chronic disease,” instead of trying to cure it.
“We have seen the greatest advances in cancer medicine in the last five years with drugs targeting the immune system moving into the clinic and showing remarkable response rates with quite a few different malignancies,” Lisa Coussens, Ph.D., Chair of the Department of Cell, Developmental & Cancer Biology, said to Fox News at the American Association for Cancer Research annual conference.
However response rates do not indicate medical doctors and scientists are closer to a cure, if still the goal.
“With regards to a cure for that, it’s really not a realistic goal. I don’t know if cancer is a disease that can be cured. I think for most of us, the goal is management where we think about cancer like other chronic disease,” Dr. Coussens said. “50 years ago diabetes was a death sentence, now it is a chronic disease that is managed.”
“It’s been a big shift in the last 10 years with thinking about cancer in that way: instead of a cure, treat it like a chronic disease where you live with disease and live your life well with that disease. It’s a major shift, but a tremendous goal,” she added.
According to the American Cancer Society, identifying certain types of cancer as a “chronic disease” was introduced around 2016.
“Cancer isn’t always a one-time event. Cancer can be closely watched and treated, but sometimes it never completely goes away. It can be a chronic (ongoing) illness, much like diabetes or heart disease,” the website says.
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If you work at the RNA level, I think it can work on all mutations. More to come...
Agreed! Do you know much about this area?
Not directly. I just read a lot. I'm a retired chemist who did chemical instrument design, and one of the projects I worked on was the microfluidic detection of biological warfare agents as a consultant with LLNL.
The instrument used two approaches, a set of fluorescent beads with antigens for different species (one per bead) to do the initial detection, and a followup PCR specific to (for instance) anthrax as a means of preventing false positives, all automatically.
That background lets me at least vaguely understand the usefulness of antigen-antibody chemistry for a topic like this.
I wouldn’t go that far. Curing cancer may not be possible in all cases.
To “cure” cancer you must kill all cancerous cells from body, if even a small number survive it will return.
If however you can treat the system, and keep the cancer from growing, or from shutting down your natural systems, one may live a normal live expectancy even though they have cancerous cells in their body.
I don’t see anything wrong with this doctors conjecture.
If the option is we must remove every cancerous cell from you, and we are not able or sure how to do that... vs we can possibly find a way for you to live a normal life expectancy even if you do have cancer because we can keep the cancer in check, but never fully remove it all... that’s not a bad course of action.
The standard for “Cured” may not be realistically be able to be met in all cases.
Agree to a minor extent. To cure something, you must destroy the bodies ability to create that thing. Cancer is the cell no longer able to end its own life and continually recreates itself. This mechanism is vital to healthy cellular sustainment. There are a variety of cancers and numerous, ingenious methods by which to destroy cancerous cells and enhance the cells ability to ensure end of life. Wasp venom has been used for a type of cancer. My friends daughter was cured of stage 4 glioblastoma via a trial at Duke University. She is our miracle girl. Curing is possible.
Your point is well taken, but having a research professional deny the possibility is self-defeating. He may very well be right, but to essentially give up before the race is run does his profession a huge disservice.
the “premise” of this conspiracy theory is that the drug companies already found it, and are covering it up...
Of course for this to be true means that the actual individuals who were involved in the discovery keep their mouths shut...
So, someone discovered the cure in a drug companies lab, the execs decide we make more money selling drugs to treat so lets not make money selling things that cure... so squash the research and kill off the scientists who discovered it, oh, and then to be sure no one ever talks, need to kill off the people who decided to kill off the scientists too...
Honestly, my bet is that cancer treatment will likely end up being like this doctor is proposing... eventually will be like HIV treatment... lifetime of drugs, to keep the cancerous cells in check.. as there is no way to truly guarantee not one single cancerous cell remains.
Not true. And not necessary. The body already has "some" capability to kill cancerous cells. It is just that the rapid growth rate of cancerous cells overwhelms that inherent capacity.
If an intervention can kill the tumors and MOST of any "shed" cells (which antigen-antibody technology can do), then the body's natural immune response can probably handle the low-level residual. It is NOT necessary to "kill every cell".
I respectfully disagree.
Anything less than 100% kill and you risk recurrence, period.
Sorry, but still wrong.
I assume you also think that exposure to a single anthrax or smallpox spore will result in a case of the disease in the exposed individual? It does not, due to the same mechanism that protects individuals from cancer...the versatility of the human immune response.
Mutations happen constantly in body cells, but most never result in disease, as those cells are "culled" by the immune response. Disease only happens when the basic immune response is overwhelmed, either by an exposure to a high concentration of disease agent, or fast cellular growth.
Now, mechanisms that can stimulate the immune response (vaccination) and "train" the body to recognize and attack a disease agent, can actually prevent disease.
I think you hit the nail on the head, on both accounts.
I do not, I did not say 1 cell remaining guarantees recurrence, I said anything less than 100% kill and you risk recurrence, and that is absolutely accurate.
Bogus argument. Any probability of recurrence is so small as to be indistinguishable from zero.
Bingo. There will be a hot spot in Hell for these bastards.
You’d be surprised how far-reaching the world’s pharmaceutical companies are, and who holds their reigns very tightly. Or not? A group of men whose combined wealth is so large they could control the planet—if not for the fact that Almighty, Creator God is always and will always be in control.
His Word saves us when we let His Son come into our lives, we are forewarned of future events by His Word so that we will be prepared and so that we can preach Jesus to a true ‘lost world’.
When Jesus Returns, every baby, every child that cannot yet comprehend the Gospel, and person that has ever called upon His Name in repentance, believing that He died and rose again will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with Him, His Word tells us.
This event is going to trigger the absolute worst and most catastrophic events since the world began, nor will ever be again.
Christ Jesus tells us that “In this world you will have tribulation, but be of good cheer: I have overcome the world.” We can trust Him no matter what happens.
He did not say that we would not experience physical death, but that our eternal spirit—our actual being—would be with him at the moment of our demise, if we have trusted our lives to Him.
Praise the Lord, He is the “Way, the Truth, and the Life”! No one need suffer eternal separation and damnation in the flames of Hell. Come just as you are, run to Him; He fixes the mess, because He’s the ‘Great Mechanic’! Amen!
There are plenty of medicines available in other countries that cannot be prescribed in the US. The “cancer cure” clinics offering laetrile right across the border in Mexico being a classic example.
You’d think that “a group of men whose combined wealth is so large they could control the planet” could at least control little old Mexico but I guess not.
Very interesting background!
With what has and is going on right now in Mexico??
The drug cartels, other murderous animals, and not to mention terrorists trying to cross into U.S.? A person could likely die from being kidnapped and shot, forget cancer.
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