Posted on 04/18/2018 7:32:46 AM PDT by sodpoodle
Edited on 04/18/2018 8:35:24 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
God Bless you Captain Shults and GO NAVY!
The Gimli Glider incident is INCREDIBLE. (And kind of comical, too.)
Why those men were mostly treated poorly I cant figure. Ultimately they and the pilots genius for glide flying saved those lives.
Boy, you all dont watch Air Disasters, do you? Youd know that is standard operation and expected.
I know I want a human at the controls in airplane descending into N90 airspace at 1600 on a Friday afternoon. N90 is the airspace around JFK, LGA, and EWR and is the busiest in the world..
The crew on 232 had a MD engineer on board who they brought up to help..
Good job to this pilot during the stress of the incident. After just watching the NTSB’s latest briefing the questions to be answered become obvious. Is the noted metal fatigue a problem in manufacturing or in maintenance? An inspection of the aircraft was done 2 days prior to this incident.. what was inspected? When was the last detailed engine inspection and was it done according to current aviation standards for the engine model?
If you watch the news and read closely between the lines, Southwest is already hinting that they didn’t perform the enhanced inspections suggested after their last engine incident because it wasn’t “exactly” the same engine model. It sounds to me like a pretty legalistic response. My hunch will be that a lack of careful maintenance on Southwest’s part led them to miss the signs of metal fatigue on this engine. The question is how many other engines have metal fatigue where the fan blades attach to the hub? and how many other airlines are looking carefully for them? I suspect NTSB will issue a service bulletin at some point during the investigation for airlines to ultrasonically inspect all 737 engines... quite a task given how many of them there are.
The conversation is important. Even quadruple redundant questioning.
Keeps people psychologically collected, eases anxiety and promotes awareness focus.
Don’t ya just hate it when the instructor chops the power to the engine?
Well, after the first few times the shock wears off and you begin to automatically go into engine out mode and you fly the airplane.
She knew very well that she had a functioning engine and proceeded to fly the plane
IIRC, early on they blamed the crew for making a metric to imperial units error.
Not stated in this article, one of the crew had flown out of Gimli as a military pilot and knew it was nearby.
**She knew very well that she had a functioning engine and proceeded to fly the plane**
And who knows, with 5 miles less air below her, and no engines, she may have done as well as Captain Sully.
She did very well at doing her job. Thankfully the destruction didn’t destroy the functions of the the wing, as was the case years ago at O’hare, when hundreds died.
The almost constant blather about women being held back when they are just as able to do similar jobs, fails to recognize that there are some jobs men HAVE HAD to do. Before hydraulic boost (power steering) most women weren’t built strong enough to handle an F-20 Farmall tractor all day, let alone a Grumman Hellcat in a do or die dogfight.
As far as her Navy career; there is the usual “landed on a pitching carrier deck at night” amazement. The Navy doesn’t let them land on a real carrier until they have mastered the simulator, and then they still don’t begin the real deal with an F/A18. I’m glad she never experienced the muzzie version of Hanoi Hilton. I shudder to think of any captured woman in muzzie lockup. Think of the girls kidnapped in Nigeria.
Listen at the 1 minute mark
John Cleese - How to irritate People - Airplane Pilots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PktyJR_U2J0
I receive the NTSB Reporter and when the findings are published I’ll post them here.
He was a United Airlines flight instructor and had come onboard as a jumpseat rider. There were open seats in back, so he sat back there for the flight. The crew had him come up to the cockpit after the engine failure.
Thank you!
I recall the ground crew definitely messing up the units.
I think the powers that be (and public) blamed the flight crew for “not seeing the error”.
Still, they saved their skins in the end.
She did very well. And if she’s the kind of person that it appears, she has probably shed a tear for the mother that didn’t survive. Though no fault of her own, with that death she is probably also experiencing at least some personal loss herself from a captain/passenger perspective.
On a lighter note:
The fictitious FedEx crash in that Tom Hanks movie had a wide body crash in the ocean, and the fuselage is headed for the bottom. He swims out and up only to be greeted by a STILL RUNNING turbofan jet engine, that finally self-destructs in front of dog paddling Tom.
As Jed Clampett would say: “Pathetic, juuuust pathetic.”
Unconstrained engine failure. Bad juju.
CC
Hollyweird never gets their scientific acts together.
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