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Incredible Anti-Gun Bill Introduced in MN HF 3022 could make California seem "gun-friendly"
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Posted on 04/18/2018 3:06:18 AM PDT by LibWhacker
Incredible Anti-Gun Bill Introduced in MN
HF 3022 could make California seem "gun-friendly."
Posted March 1, 2018 in Legal Issues by Russ Chastain with No Comments
If you live in Minnesota, be afraid. Be very afraid. Then get busy.
A nasty piece of gun control legislation called HF 3022 has been introduced, and it is hell on gun rights. Not only does it restrict just about everything related to firearms, it also makes gun owners information public, as in how many guns you own and of what type, and your home address.
A Facebook post by AccuTac Arms, which calls itself the largest stocking dealer of NFA items in Minnesota, sums it up like this:
For everyone in MN.
Here it comes
HF 3022 is now in the Legislature
Permit required to own a gun
Permit required to buy a gun
Permit required to sell a gun
Local law enforcement gets to deny all types of gun permits
Local law enforcement gets to deny permits to carry
Personal medical information must be shared with law enforcement
All firearm transfers must be reported
All guns must be registered (fees set by local law enforcement)
Registration must be renewed annually
Local law enforcement may conduct warrantless safety inspections of gun owners homes
Local law enforcement sets safe storage policies
Five day waiting period for all transfers
Transfers must be done through an FFL (even between private parties)
Fees may be charged for transfers
Local law enforcement may conduct background investigation on transfers
Total ban on any gun which meets broad assault weapon definition banned guns must be destroyed or surrendered
Ban thumbhole stocks
Ban adjustable stocks
Ban pistol grip stocks
Limit fixed magazine capacity to 7 rounds
Ban any magazine capable of holding more than 7 rounds
Suspension of gun rights based on complaints from anonymous parties
Recriminalization of suppressors
Bump stock ban
All ammunition sales will be registered
Permit required to purchase ammunition
Almost forgot an important thing
HF 3022 would also make gun owner private data public. This would include:
Number and type of guns you own
Your address
Anyone think thats okay?
If you havent joined the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, please do.
Yikes!
If this becomes law, folks in California can at least bask in the knowledge that theyre no longer living in the most anti-gun state in the USA.
You can read the entire text of HF 3022 here.
It seems unlikely that it will pass, especially as is, but it is still a huge threat and a clear example of anti-gunners end goal: The destruction of civilian gun ownership in the USA. One big hurdle is that it violates HIPPA privacy laws by requiring citizens to give their medical information to law enforcement entities before they can purchase a gun. It also opens the door (pun intended) to warrantless searches of citizens homes.
It also bans assault weapons and requires owners to surrender or destroy them without compensation.
MN residents need to mobilize and fight this at all costs. Check out the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus here.
The current status on March 1, 2018 according to this site is that it was introduced on February 26, 2018 and referred to Public Safety and Security Policy and Finance.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; goodlord; guns; hf3022; minnesota; nra; righttocarry; secondamendment
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To: LibWhacker
“HF 3022 would also make gun owner private data public. This would include:
Number and type of guns you own
Your address”
Lists can be very valuable.
To: LibWhacker
Again I will post this from the long suppressed 97th Congress Congressional Report from 1982 on the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Betcha can’t find a complete copy with the pro and anti arguments in it. The court cases in the 1800s are listed.
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/68101
“The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second
amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every
major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that
what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a
peaceful manner.”
To: LibWhacker
We thought they’d go away if we allowed them to ‘marry’. What happened? Now they’re in our grade schools recruiting kids to be gay and demanding that boys be allowed to use girls locker rooms. Next up in this area is ‘normalization’ of pedophilia. The end-game here is tough to figure out, but my hunch is that it’s total freedom for perverts with parents reduced to babysitters for the state, if parents even get to keep their own kids.
As to guns, the article has it correct, and don’t be surprised if they use the New York City subway trick when they need a 25 cent increase - which is to ask that the price of a ride be increased from $1.50 to $2.00, have people yell and scream, and then ‘only’ increase the price to $1.75...and the people react by saying ‘Wow, that was close!’. In the case of guns, maybe they’ll just ‘compromise’ at the California level.
...and don’t be surprised if the one area that they really move out on is the ‘public shaming’ aspect, even without any of the other measures. For that, they can claim that they’re not doing anything to prevent gun ownership, knowing full-well that the vast majority of gun owners would prefer that their hardware NOT be public, and many will choose to not own any guns at all because of this clause.
Gun owners need to learn to TAKE THE OFFENSIVE and HIT BACK. If the gun-grabbers are so adamant against allowing schools to protect themselves (i.e., armed staff/teachers), how about we start asking whether they actually WANT MORE SCHOOL KILLINGS, as that is what they will be getting. And how about we answer for them - and that answer is YES, and the killings serve the purpose to provide further political cover for gun grabbing, each time an incident happens. If the incidents stop, gun-grabbing will DRASTICALLY slow down or stop completely. So, yes again, THEY NEED DEAD CHILDREN to advance their agenda, and we need to call them on it.
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:06:52 AM PDT
by
BobL
(I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
To: Politically Correct
It began in 1962. In 1976 they threw off the mask claiming they “only wanted to control handguns” calling for a full ban as their end goal and “Rifles will not be affected!”
In 1987 they threw of the “Rifles” mask and called for bans on semi-auto rifles.
Then in the 1990s, they threw off the mask calling for bans on certain large caliber bolt action rifles.
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Yep, people who even introduce such bills, or co-sponsor these bills, need to be placed on a list.
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:17:55 AM PDT
by
Obadiah
To: LibWhacker
Believe me, MN is every bit as radical let as their neighboring commie state of Illinois.
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:24:23 AM PDT
by
Cheerio
(#44, The unknown President)
To: SkyPilot
The left must be defeated by any means necessary before the SJW millennials are of age to run “(ruin) this country.
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:35:11 AM PDT
by
ohioman
To: LibWhacker
Shouldn't MN hold off until Duncan v. Becerra is settled? Or is sippy cup Hogg pushing MN into this?
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:37:24 AM PDT
by
Cheerio
(#44, The unknown President)
To: SkyPilot
I think it's just a matter of time before a state bans guns outright, and the courts and the Federal government will do nothing to defend us.
Nothing to defend us?
Stock up on ammo and purchase more weapons for the day you are going to have to defend your self and your family.
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:41:51 AM PDT
by
Cheerio
(#44, The unknown President)
To: LibWhacker
Minnesota has a huge hunting population. Being outdoors in all 4 seasons is standard behavior with the majority of people up here. Outside of the Twin Cities’ metro and university towns, the state is a conservative as any other state. St. Cloud which has been traditionally Democratic as turned GOP, despite St. Cloud State University, and local area St. Johns U and College of St. Benedict. Historically SC has a large Catholic population [Germans and Luxembourgers]. But the Democrat Party has left us all.
This may be the spark to “Turn Minnesota Red” in November [the GOP’s motto in MN in 2018!].
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posted on
04/18/2018 6:44:41 AM PDT
by
Gumdrop
To: LibWhacker
Minnesota is a far-left, socialist hell hole and has been for quite some time. Think Paul Wellstone, Al Franken, Amy Klobuchar, Walter Mondale, etc.
Socialism reigns supreme in Minnesota. I’ve known several people who hailed from Minnesota, and all but two got the hell out of there.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:00:20 AM PDT
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: SkyPilot
..and the courts and the Federal government will do nothing to defend us.The courts and fed gov are made up of people.
People who we wish to lift a finger on our behalf against the powers that wish to squish us.
The supreme court will protect us, if we get the right people in there, we say.
but when it comes to it, we meekly acquiesce and go, cuffed, into the wagon.
Every single law that has passed infringes....who is ready and willing to kill or be killed?
To harsh a statement? yes, yes it is, and they are collectively banking on that sentiment as they deprive us of every freedom.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:01:33 AM PDT
by
going hot
(happiness is a momma deuce)
To: JamesP81
I agree with everything that you said, but particularly
“This is why the people who said bump stocks were not the hill to die on were wrong and the NRA was wrong. Oh we dont want to spend political capital on a stupid toy! Bzzzzt. Wrong. You threw away political capital trying to score points with people who would shove you into ovens in death camps if they had their way.”
That IS the bottom line - our opponents are LEFTISTS. Not liberals, but LEFTISTS. Liberals may be naive and/or stupid, but they at least generally play by the rules. The Leftists, OTOH, ONLY want to win, and will do anything necessary to do that...up to, and including, literally putting us in cattle cars and later disposing of our bodies. Both sides of my family have been victimized, some by Russian Leftists (Communists) and some by German Leftists (Nazis); I have studied these people for most of my life, and I KNOW what their endgame is. Suffice it to say that it doesn’t end well for those who like freedom and individual liberties.
Fight these people - always and everywhere. Failure to do so when it is easy (with words, letters, emails, voting, etc.) will make doing so with guns, knives and bombs necessary...and that will be much harder.
Here are 2 links that people need to peruse:
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233259 A call by Karl Denninger to contact BATFE in opposition to the ban on bump stocks. This thing CAN be stopped - but we need overwhelming and reasoned comments. Do your part (that’s the collective “you”) while it is easy.
The Gun Rights Cake Analogy - by Law Dog: http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-repost.html
This states, very succinctly, why we can NO LONGER COMPROMISE: because we have ALREADY compromised, many times, and it has never done ANYTHING for us. The other side keeps coming back for more and more every year, with literally no end in sight except total confiscation. We know where this train ride terminates...so it is time to disembark RIGHT F’ING NOW!!!! Send this Law Dog post to anyone who advocates compromise, from now until the day you die - make it go viral. Get the word out: compromise only means a long, slow, suffering death.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:27:08 AM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
To: LibWhacker
My inlaws sold their home recently in Thousand Oaks, CA. They are looking at CDA or Sandpoint ID area. They fled CA the day they closed in their RV loaded with their firearms collection worth thousands of dollars (and we added up the felony jail time and fines in CA) and 20 years in a CA prison. They are now in friendly territory where the old man can pull out his guns and say, “come on over and lets shoot”. For years he had them hid in drywall, in the garage, inside of furniture in CA. Damn shame.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:29:54 AM PDT
by
DCBryan1
(Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
To: DMZFrank
Many useful idiots here at Free Republic said that we had to be prepared to compromise on bump stocks as a show of good faith and a willingness to compromise, to avoid further infringements.....
Yep, I’ve argued with a couple of them. But we all know that the anti-second amendment people stop when they get what they want, right? I mean, I know that if we give them a bump stock ban they won’t ask for anything else.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:31:41 AM PDT
by
suthener
To: Bryanw92
The cancer that is California will spread and there are no viable treatment options. A surgeon would recommend excision, just like with McCain's bowel infection.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:38:36 AM PDT
by
Charles Martel
(Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
To: LibWhacker
Looks very like a bill introduced in Alabama about 6 months ago. I wonder if they are working from a template.
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posted on
04/18/2018 7:42:29 AM PDT
by
hanamizu
To: Gumdrop
list of "common sense" gun laws at least according to the tyrant wannabes
This show that anti-gunners cannot be bargained with; they cannot be reasoned with; There is no "middle ground".
This will end one of three ways.
- They pass their legislation and we accept it and are enslaved
- The pass their legislation and open resistance breaks out, but the police kill enough patriots so that those who might resist are all dead
- Open resistance breaks out, and enough anti-gunners, their political donors, their media lickspittles and their pet police are killed to put an end to this for a generation.
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posted on
04/18/2018 9:00:32 AM PDT
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
To: LibWhacker
And this is constitutional because?
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posted on
04/18/2018 10:00:04 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
To: ought-six
I got my family out of there several years ago, I spent over 20 yrs there and watched it get ‘progressively’ worse. Even though there are many gop leaning counties the twin cities, Rochester, Duluth as well as the reservations over-whelm the political process and push their evil agendas. We will never go back and will avoid reservations and big cities like the plague (because they are). They are a cancer and need to be cut out and eradicated.
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posted on
04/18/2018 11:17:30 AM PDT
by
Conservative4Life
(I'm not too worried, I've read the book and know how it all ends...We win)
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