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1 dead after jetliner apparently blows an engine in flight
Assoc. Press ^ | 4/17/2018 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2018 1:45:49 PM PDT by T-Bird45

PHILADELPHIA — A Southwest Airlines jet apparently blew an engine at about 30,000 feet and got hit by shrapnel that smashed a window and damaged the fuselage Tuesday, killing a passenger and injuring seven others, authorities said.

The plane, a twin-engine Boeing 737 bound from New York to Dallas with 149 people aboard, made an emergency landing in Philadelphia just before noon as passengers breathing through oxygen masks that dropped from the ceiling said their prayers and braced for impact.

"I just remember holding my husband's hand, and we just prayed and prayed and prayed," said passenger Amanda Bourman, of New York. "And the thoughts that were going through my head of course were about my daughters, just wanting to see them again and give them a big hug so they wouldn't grow up without parents."

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aviation; braking; ge; philadelphia; southwestair; swa
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To: no-s

Ha... yes on the runway short of the first high speed turnoff. Only Senator Heinz lands on Philadelphia.


141 posted on 04/17/2018 3:54:38 PM PDT by blackdog
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Well, thank God that this pilot was skilled and able to land this plane safely.

Prayers for the victim and family. Extreme gratitude that there weren’t many more.


142 posted on 04/17/2018 3:55:00 PM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Turkmenistan rebuilds and yellow tags a lot of jet engines. Thousands a month. This always puzzled me.


143 posted on 04/17/2018 3:57:21 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: Sontagged

“(They say it is about 250 tons total in the AirBus.)

An A380 isn’t a good comparison to a 737.


144 posted on 04/17/2018 3:57:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's bes friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: NorthMountain

CFM is a 50/50 joint venture between SAF and GE Aviation. I believe they have done some innovative things as they received a couple of awards. Now to find out if the one over the Gulf last year was also a CFM. If so then there is likely a fatigue induced design failure that is very hard to detect. I’m sure we’ll know more soon....


145 posted on 04/17/2018 4:00:54 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: Sontagged

less than one tenth that 250 ton amount in a 737.


146 posted on 04/17/2018 4:01:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's bes friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: T-Bird45

CIA-controlled assets, black hats caused it IMO.

Some staging too...how are papers and a kindle/tablet left on the seat next to it? Where is the blood we were told was there???

FBI opened an investigation on Q...

Q says book boom so they blame him.


147 posted on 04/17/2018 4:03:58 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (There are no more accidents. Q Sorta Kinda Knows What He is Talking About)
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To: NorthMountain; bigdaddy45

I’m fanning the discussion. Look at the excellent inputs in #12, #18.

And thank you for your input too.

By the way, I had a close friend, his wife and five children die on Alaska 261 from Seattle to Mexico in 2000. Cause of crash: defective lead screw made of improperly tempered steel manufactured and supplied by China.

“The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was a loss of airplane pitch control resulting from the in-flight failure of the horizontal stabilizer trim system jackscrew assembly’s acme nut threads”

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/AAR0201.aspx

And another by the way on the subject of Alaska 261. A couple I knew in South Seattle had a son that worked as an aviation maintenance tech for Alaska at the time. Their son said the NTSB pulled a political hit on Alaska saying the cause was improper lubrication which he is said was bullcrap. NTSB didn’t want to point to Chinese steel as the cause because it was too hot to handle politically. But NTSB did require in the aftermath total testing verification of assemblies made in China by Alaska suppliers. So they knew.

My friend’s son said Alaska management immediately had all jack screw assemblies pulled from inventory and their suppliers do the same, had them tested and found them defective while the parts records were signed off without the required testing and verification. Chinese factory managers think all the testing and records requirements are bunk. They think Americans and their quality control and quality assurance requirements are unnecessary and costly. They left it to America aviation suppliers to do the required testing. The American suppliers did sample testing, factory tours, audits, and made the mistake of trusting the rest to the Chinese. I’ve been to China with General Electric. I am not a fan of the PRC Chinese. They are dishonest.

Can I have an apology or an understanding for my inclination to bash and not trust Chinese liars?


148 posted on 04/17/2018 4:05:34 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: SMGFan
First passenger fatality US airline since 2009.

If true, that's an amazing fact.

149 posted on 04/17/2018 4:06:23 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: T-Bird45

Didn’t another carrier loss a nose cowl not too long ago? I’ve been in fact maintenance for 37 yrs and I’ve seen assemblies, mostly reversers, come back from vendor overhaul that were crap.


150 posted on 04/17/2018 4:06:29 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: Psalm 73

It could have been much, much worse. The crew and passengers are lucky to be alive.


151 posted on 04/17/2018 4:07:14 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: SkyShot

Okay. No problem.


152 posted on 04/17/2018 4:07:42 PM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: Sontagged

See diagrams at the link.

Almost all pure jets use a straight through system. Look at where the air comes in, walk around it, and you’ll see where the air comes out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Components_of_jet_engines

There are some turboprops where the exhaust isn’t in-line usually angled out toward the side or downward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboprop

For a good view of where the exhaust comes out, see about the 2:25 point on this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S88FsFE5EE


153 posted on 04/17/2018 4:07:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: bert

Yep, as explained in an excellent manner in #18, but isn’t the housing made of steel?

My motivation to bash the Chinese is laid out in #148. I am prejudiced for good reason.


154 posted on 04/17/2018 4:10:49 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Excellent input. Thank you.


155 posted on 04/17/2018 4:16:00 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Balding_Eagle

See #18 for an excellent description of the metal composition.

Why I am prejudiced against PRC Chinese is laid out in #148.


156 posted on 04/17/2018 4:17:46 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Sontagged
It’s an honest question, so as to dispel all the chemtrail conspiracy theories.

Sinister chemtrail conspiracy theories do not need to be dispelled because anyone that believes those fluffy swirling lines are anything but vapor from jet fuel combustion will not listen to us attempting to set them straight.

Where does all the exhaust from 200 metric meters of fuel go? I don’t understand, and just asking an honest question.

Jet
1. a stream of a liquid, gas, or small solid particles forcefully shooting forth from a nozzle, orifice, etc.
2. something that issues in such a stream, as water or gas.
3. a spout or nozzle for emitting liquid or gas:

Air goes into the front intake scoop, mixes with the jet fuel, is ignited and shoots straight out of the back as hot exhaust through the nozzle.

In this photo the nozzle was blown off. I hope you know that not all of the fuel is used all at once. Your question, "(w)here does all the exhaust from 200 metric meters of fuel go" makes it seem as if you may not understand that the fuel is consumed gradually just the way your automobile consumes fuel for the whole length of the trip.

157 posted on 04/17/2018 4:21:21 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Yep, as posted in #18 and several others. But other parts of the failure cascade could be steel and yes, I have an ax to grind with PRC Chinese as explained in #148.


158 posted on 04/17/2018 4:22:30 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: T-Bird45

The pilot is a former fighter pilot she is a HERO..the passenger that died is ID’d as Jennifer Riordan of New Mexico, she was an executive at Wells Fargo..she leaves behind 2 children..may she RIP


159 posted on 04/17/2018 4:26:12 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sontagged

Woops, the exhaust is not shown in this photo. This is the intake end of the engine. The exhaust nozzle is under the wing.


160 posted on 04/17/2018 4:26:35 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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