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Survey of Chemical Attacks in Douma on 7th April 2018
Bellingcat ^ | April 11, 2018 | staff

Posted on 04/11/2018 1:09:51 PM PDT by gandalftb

On April 7th 2018 reports began emerging of alleged chemical attacks on the city of Douma, in the rebel held pocket of Eastern Ghouta, Syria.

Reports indicated that a significant number of people, including children, had been killed by these attacks.

This report will assess and verify the open source information regarding these attacks, and draw conclusions from the available evidence.

Based on the available evidence, it is highly likely the 34+ victims killed in the attack on the apartment building near al-Shuhada Square were killed as a result of a gas cylinder filled with what is most likely chlorine gas being dropped from a Hip helicopter originating from Dumayr Airbase.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gasattack; russia; syria
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Lots of photos, seems to be well documented.
1 posted on 04/11/2018 1:09:51 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

Have you *EVER* seen evidence against someone the neocons wanted to bomb/overthrow which was not “well documented” in your eyes?


2 posted on 04/11/2018 1:12:18 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

So, you knee-jerk reject it, oppose Trump, and instead support Assad and Putin? Your hatred of necons, which I don’t like either, is that strong?


3 posted on 04/11/2018 1:15:58 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: SecAmndmt
The worst Crime Assad ever did was to NOT register with the Democrat Party...


4 posted on 04/11/2018 1:16:03 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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To: SecAmndmt

Some folks are never going to be convinced by evidence...so whats the point in having the conversation?


5 posted on 04/11/2018 1:16:45 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: gandalftb

This is utter garbage. Where is the PROOF?????? We aren’t interested in conclusions not based in provable FACTS!~!


6 posted on 04/11/2018 1:18:48 PM PDT by raiderboy (Three generations of our poorly educated have no ability to think.)
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To: GraceG

Waco was a Clinton/Reno govt crime.

But tear gas is not a WMD like chlorine gas. It does a disservice to your argument when you make bad analogies.


7 posted on 04/11/2018 1:18:49 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

Some folks are convinced that bombing Assad to help out ISIS, is insanity.


8 posted on 04/11/2018 1:19:07 PM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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Your hatred of necons, which I don’t like either, is that strong?

Neocons support al Qaeda. Assad and Putin support Christians. What's so difficult to understand about this?

9 posted on 04/11/2018 1:20:57 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Magnum44

What evidence?? Start with “1.” and enumerate the specific evidence— don’t use conclusions of others . List absolute irrefutable evidence before we attack the russians!! This is utter madness.


10 posted on 04/11/2018 1:21:30 PM PDT by raiderboy (Three generations of our poorly educated have no ability to think.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

That is not the reason that Assad needs spanking. But again, many here don’t want to discuss. They just want to crawl under a rock and ignore the next WMD attack, which may not be in Syria, but was condoned right here.


11 posted on 04/11/2018 1:22:15 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: gandalftb

If a WHITE HELMET is saying it, it’s a Jihadi Lie. That I do know for a fact.


12 posted on 04/11/2018 1:22:47 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: raiderboy

Start here and do your own research, I don’t have time to repeat myself to every Neville Chamberlin on the forum:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3646633/posts?page=28#28


13 posted on 04/11/2018 1:25:01 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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[ Based on the available evidence, it is highly likely the 34+ victims killed in the attack on the apartment building near al-Shuhada Square were killed as a result of a gas cylinder filled with what is most likely chlorine gas being dropped from a Hip helicopter originating from Dumayr Airbase. ]

It could also be someone in the Syrian military who is sympathetic to the rebels cause who wanted to gin up sympathy for the nearly defeated rebels too...

Chlorine Gas can be easily made too, it could be a scavenged cylinder from an attack on a rebel stronghold too...

Too many lingering questions to base an entire military response to.

Syria is in a CIVIL WAR.... The North burnt a path across the south no doubt killing many more women and children than died in Syria. And it was seen as a GOOD MOVE FOR THE GOOD GUYS!

Assad has been fighting ISIS, I don’t care if he is a bastard, the last ~20 years has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that “soft kind gentle government” don’t work that well with the backwards ass wretches living in the middle east.

Let Assad clean up his country, after he finishes off the rebels and order is restored maybe we sanction him or something.


14 posted on 04/11/2018 1:25:11 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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[ Waco was a Clinton/Reno govt crime.

But tear gas is not a WMD like chlorine gas. It does a disservice to your argument when you make bad analogies. ]

Dead is Dead.


15 posted on 04/11/2018 1:26:11 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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To: Drew68

Sorry, I don’t buy your conclusions.


16 posted on 04/11/2018 1:26:17 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: GraceG

No grey areas in life for you, huh? Must be nice.


17 posted on 04/11/2018 1:27:27 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: GraceG

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A single 20 lb cylinder of chlorine could easily kill 1000 in a confined space.
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18 posted on 04/11/2018 1:27:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: The Toll

[ If a WHITE HELMET is saying it, it’s a Jihadi Lie. That I do know for a fact. ]

Agreed 100000%, we are dealing with people who will murder their own daughter for wanting to marry outside of their family.

You think they would hesitate to either fake a gassing or even gas their own people for a victory for their “greater jihad”?????


19 posted on 04/11/2018 1:28:07 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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[ No grey areas in life for you, huh? Must be nice. ]

Burning alive with all our mucous membranes severely irritated from tear gas is probably just as horrific as Chlorine gas killing you.

But hey, draw your own conclusions.


20 posted on 04/11/2018 1:29:55 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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