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To: Cronos
All that you quoted was just justification of what you have chosen to believe. There is nowhere in Scripture where God changed the Sabbath. The verse in Acts is just saying they met on the 1st day. They lived together and met most days. That certainly wasn't some indication from God to change the Sabbath, so who did? Men in Rome in the 4th century. Ask a Jew when First Fruits happened this year and see if it lines up with the day we celebrate Easter. If the name Easter is in the Bible, I don't know what verse it's in. What does it mean? It comes from Asteroth, Isis, Ishtar, ect.

We are not under the law, but we must know that the Leviticus 23 days tell of Jesus. Zech 14:16-21, tells of the Last Days, God will force us to celebrate Tabernacles in Jerusalem or suffer no rain and plagues. There is another reference that says God will bring back Saturday worship and force the Sabbath back to the 6th day, but right now I'm too lazy to look it up for you.

The point is God never changed these days, man did. If you will read Eze 8-9, it speaks of Abominations going on in the Temple. Verse 14 speaks of the women weeping for Tammuz and verse 16 speaks of men worshiping the sun. What is Sunday? The day named after the Roman sun god. Our months and days of the week are all named for Roman gods today. The Jews just say 1st day, 2nd day, 7th month, ect.

Col 2:16-17 is spoken to the Colossi church. The Christians were already moving from the Biblical church Jesus started to their amalgamation of pagan rules. Jesus ALWAYS celebrated Lev 23 Feast Days, not the "new" days made up by men. Paul was telling the Colossians to to stay with the Lev days and not to change. In 3 John 1:9, a Greek church wouldn't even allow John and his people in the church due to antisemitism. That was about 100 AD. This is the disciple Jesus loved, who actually walked with Jesus, and he wasn't welcome in their church. I can tell you that Jesus would be thrown out of many churches today because He would confront them with the truth as it's written very plainly in Scripture, but we won't hear it.

I could go verse after verse refuting all that you just typed, but you won't believe anyway. Satan is more than a liar, he is a counterfeiter. Much of what we believe today is a counterfeit of what was given in Scripture. Recognize what was made up by men and stay with Scripture. Saying you aren't under the Law is just a cop out to do what you want. As Paul said,.."Heaven forbid". You say we are under a new covenant. Aren't we under the Abrahamic covenant made New with the Blood of Christ? Isaac was bound to the altar and God provided a Ram to slaughter. The covenant was made without Isaac's death. Abraham was in covenant because he believed God, the same as today. We have been adopted into God's family. The Jews haven't been culled out. Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish Law, not to start a new religion. The early church followed the Jewish tradition found in Scripture.

What we have done is made up reason why we can change things, like meet on Sunday because the Apostles ate together on one Sunday. One misinterpreted verse in Colossians doesn't mean we can forget about the Sabbath and feast days. That is no excuse to change the 10 Commandments. Is Murder and adultery legal because we are under a "new covenant? Is bowing to statues now legal? We have grace now, but does that mean we can sin on purpose? Heaven forbid.

You, and many others have been fooled into believing the traditions of men and ditching the Scriptures. This is why in the last Days, God will punish those that follow the Harlot, Babylon. He tells them to come out of her or suffer with her, God's wrath. Rev 18:3-5. In God's eyes, there are His people, and Babylon, or everyone else. "Everyone else" will be treated as the Babylonians are treated in Revelation. Are you going to stay with Easter and Christmas because your church says so or will you read what Jesus observed during His life? Ever heard of "What would Jesus do? He NEVER celebrated Easter or Christmas, but didn't miss a Passover or Tabernacles. Even Chanukah,( means "dedication"), Jesus was in Jerusalem to celebrate. (John 10:22) He missed Christmas though somehow, because He was born on Tabernacles.

Here is just one of thousands of sites to read up on this.

http://lorendavis.com/news_articles_queen_of_heaven.html

There are many many more if you wish to find out the truth. It's also in encyclopedia's, but no one has those anymore. This has been known and taught for many many years now.

31 posted on 04/17/2018 9:22:38 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
all I quoted were facts

The Fact is that the Church never "changed the Sabbath" - from Apostolic times we Christians have celebrated the Lords day, SUNDAY, when he rose from the dead.

I don't know what you non-Christians do

32 posted on 04/17/2018 10:58:59 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles
If the name Easter is in the Bible, I don't know what verse it's in. What does it mean? It comes from Asteroth, Isis, Ishtar, ect

You do realize that "Easter" is the word only in English, right?

With the exception of German and English, the day on which Christ rose is called Pascha/Passover/Pasqua -- even in Dutch (a Germanic language)

How can you compare the word in a late language (English) when the name of the Sumerian goddes was Innana, not Ishtar??? Do you know any other language besides English?

If you did you would know:

  1. In Latin: Pascha

  2. In Polish: Wielkanoc (Great night)

  3. In Dutch : Pasen

  4. Swedish: pask

  5. in Welsh: Pasg

33 posted on 04/17/2018 11:03:45 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles
Zech 14:16-21 - talks about the celebration of the feast of the Tabernacles, not the weekly celebration

Jesus rose on Sunday and Sunday is when we Christians celebrate His rising from the dead. Sabbath remains Saturday - and that is as per the Old Covenant. Christians since Apostolic Times celebrate Sunday.

34 posted on 04/17/2018 11:06:22 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles
Verse 14 speaks of the women weeping for Tammuz and verse 16 speaks of men worshiping the sun. What is Sunday? The day named after the Roman sun god. Our months and days of the week are all named for Roman gods today.

you really do not seem to understand that the world is not English, right?

Also you need to learn facts first: Tammuz was NOT the Sumerian god of the sun -- that was UTU

Next, the ENGLISH words for the week: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday - are firstly, ONLY IN ENGLISH and secondly, these aren't Roman gods except for Saturday (Saturn) - those are named after the Sun, moon, Tew , Woden (Oden), Thor, Frigga - Anglo-Saxon gods (who incidentally are very well written in pagan soruces and there is zero, nada, zilch, nothing about any anglo-saxon goddess "eostre" - ergo there was no such goddess/sprite/demi-deity.

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And, do you know what the days of the week are in other langauges?

  1. Polish: niedziela poniedziałek wtorek środa czwartek piątek sobota - Share, After Sharing day, Windy day, Middle day, fourth day, fifth day, Sabbath

Sheesh, you think that because the English, a late language uses some words, that it is some sign?

35 posted on 04/17/2018 11:16:21 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles
In 3 John 1:9, a Greek church wouldn't even allow John and his people in the church due to antisemitism.

You really should read, this was not due to Anti-semitism. It would be idiotic to be antisemitic as Christianity until 194 was pretty much a Jewish sect

The 3 epistle was written between 60 to 65 AD, not 100 AD as you state. And this was even before the destruction of the temple in 69AD - so Christians were a Jewish sect even more so

diotrophes' opposition is not due to anti-semitism or indeed anything doctrinal but about chain of command.

36 posted on 04/17/2018 11:23:00 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles
I could go verse after verse refuting all that you just typed,

you couldn't because you can't.

The fact is that you won't believe the facts in the Bible or God showing us this even in historical proofs. You should give up on this false ideas and come back to Christianity

Satan is more than a liar, he is a counterfeiter. Much of what you may believe today is a counterfeit of what was given in Scripture.

37 posted on 04/17/2018 11:24:54 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles
I could go verse after verse refuting all that you just typed,

you couldn't because you can't.

The fact is that you won't believe the facts in the Bible or God showing us this even in historical proofs. You should give up on this false ideas and come back to Christianity

Satan is more than a liar, he is a counterfeiter. Much of what you may believe today is a counterfeit of what was given in Scripture.

38 posted on 04/17/2018 11:25:25 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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