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To: Cronos
The history is everywhere, not just YouTube. If there is no connection with pagan religions, why isn't the Christian day we celebrate First Fruits, or Unleavened Bread or even Passover? The Christian Easter is NEVER on First Fruits unless by accident. The Roman church changed the calendar, the Sabbath, and the Hebrew holidays called for in Leviticus 23. Look it up in Britannica or World Book, or any source that pleases you, but "The Mother of God" comes from Babylon. Carvings of Madonna and son can be found centuries older than Mary and Christ. All of it comes from Nimrod and Semiramis and their child Tammuz. Also, the daughter of Nimrod was Thyatira, as in Revelation 2. The Harlot in Revelation is the RCC. It's the city on 7 hills and they killed more saints than all other religions combined. (Rev 17 :6-9)

Christ was killed on Passover and rose on First Fruits, neither of which falls on Easter.

27 posted on 04/16/2018 9:06:37 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles; markomalley; Salvation; marshmallow
it's not "history" - its fiction:

  1. there was no goddess Eostre -- the term was written 400 years later by Bede and only mentioned once, in NO Anglo-Saxon or Nordic work do we read of such a goddess -- yet we have LOTS of notations of Odin/Woden, Thor, Frigga, and even wood sprites. Ergo - there was no such Goddess, there was no "Eostre"

  2. Easter is the term only in English and German -- every other language calls it either Pascha/Passover/Pasqua (even the germanic tongue of Dutch uses Pasen) or Wielkanoc/Great night.

  3. why isn't the Christian day we celebrate First Fruits, or Unleavened Bread or even Passover? T -- it is called Passover -- have you only been in an English-speaking environment?
    • What is Easter in Latin - Paschae
    • in Greek? - Πάσχα (pronounced pascha)

    • Dutch - Pasen
    • Italian - Pasquar
    • Irish - Casca


  4. Passover 2018 started on Friday March 30 - Good Friday/Wielka Piątek

  5. Next, you seem to forget In Rome and Alexandria the lunar cycles by which the occurrence of Easter was determined were not uniform. Rome, after the hundred-and-twelve-year cycle of Hippolytus, adopted an eighty-four-year cycle, but neither gave satisfactory results. Alexandria adhered to the more accurate nineteen-year cycle of Meton. But it seems to be clearly established by the most recent researches (see Schwartz, op. cit., pp. 28-29) that the lunar cycles were never understood to be more than aids towards ascertaining the correct date of Easter, also that where the calculations of Rome and Alexandria led to divergent results, compromises were made upon both sides and that the final decision always lay with accepted ecclesiastical authority.

    Net-net, there is zero connection between any Germanic or Sumerian deity celebrations and the mourning and celebration of Christ's sacrifice.

    historically, Biblically and spiritually you are completely wrong - as I showed you above


28 posted on 04/16/2018 11:31:09 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles; markomalley; Salvation; marshmallow
Next, the "Roman church" didn't change Sabbath -- the Sabbath remains Saturday as per the Old Covenant. you do realize we are under the New covenant, right?

Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2, On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

Colossians 2:16-17, 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

These show that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

Remember Gal. 5:1-6It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. 2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. ==

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead"

"Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection" (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

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The Sabbath remains, yet as Jesus' in the patterm of his own rest was resurrected on a Sunday, we worship on Sunday -- the sabbath is not replaced

29 posted on 04/16/2018 11:37:29 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: chuckles; markomalley; Salvation; marshmallow
The term "The Mother of God" does not come from Babylon - sigh, I would suggest reading the Bible and history before commenting

Let's simplify it for you

Jesus was both God and man
Jesus, God pre-existed all
Jesus God created all including His mother, Mary

Mary was His mother, not His creator, just as your mother is not your creator -- your mother bore you but God was/is your creator
We don't know when God creates souls, if that has any relevance in periods of time. However, God pre-dates all if we put it in this time-space perspective --> And God exists out of space and time

The Son is God incarnate born of the virgin Mary. She of course is no Demi-urge, she the created being who bore Him. --

More critically, she bore Him, not a part of Jesus Christ , but the Word. To separate out the natures is to follow down the path of trying to separate out the human and divine natures and leads to conclusions like a man who became God or a man "possessed" by the spirit of God.

30 posted on 04/17/2018 12:25:00 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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