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California governor pardons 5 men facing deportation
sacbee.com ^ | March 30, 2018 | Paul Elias

Posted on 03/31/2018 6:58:36 AM PDT by lowbridge

California Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday pardoned five ex-convicts facing deportation, including two whose families fled the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia four decades ago.

The pardons don't automatically stop deportation proceedings, but eliminate the state convictions federal authorities based their deportation decisions on. That gives the men's lawyers strong legal arguments before immigration judges to try to prevent the deportations.

"The pardon does provide enormous benefit to immigrants facing deportation," said Anoop Prasad, an immigration staff attorney at Asian Law Caucus.

Brown's intervention for the men — among 56 pardoned — marked the Democratic governor's third consecutive pardon round in which he intervened on behalf of immigrants who were deported or faced deportation because of criminal convictions. Brown has accused the administration of President Donald Trump of "basically going to war" with California over immigration policy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; illegalimmigration; immigration
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To: deport

Hey...that’s asking a lot!


21 posted on 03/31/2018 7:53:34 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: lowbridge

Build the wall and throw CA’s democrats on the other side.


22 posted on 03/31/2018 7:58:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: lowbridge

So the SOB pardons foreigners for no reason at all, just to give them a benefit?

Americans don’t count, right Jerry?


23 posted on 03/31/2018 8:03:17 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: lowbridge

He has no authority to pardon on behalf of the federal government.


24 posted on 03/31/2018 8:04:07 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: hal ogen

Hey...that’s asking a lot!

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LOL....... True in most cases.


25 posted on 03/31/2018 8:07:06 AM PDT by deport
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To: Ancient Man

Bingo. No jurisdiction over matters strictly federal. Thar’s why the Arizona law was struck down.


26 posted on 03/31/2018 8:21:09 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: lowbridge

Governor Moonbeam thinks he’s President of the Republic of California. He will do whatever he can to fight his enemy, the United States of America. California is a State-In-Rebellion and should be treated as such.


27 posted on 03/31/2018 8:31:30 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: lowbridge

To MY mind, Moonbeam’s “pardon” is null and void. A STATE governor can’t pardon an illegal alien perp for a FEDERAL crime and deportation. He has no standing. It’s time somebody put that squirrely bahstid in his place. I think he’s certifiable.


28 posted on 03/31/2018 8:33:04 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: lowbridge

Commiefornia is a disaster.


29 posted on 03/31/2018 8:37:24 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: lowbridge

He can’t pardon them for being here illegally and the Feds know that they committed other crimes....reminds me of when some folks in Britain saved a duck and nursed it to health - they were all gathered around the pond when it was turned loose and then looked on “in horror” as a snapping turtle took it down....


30 posted on 03/31/2018 8:43:38 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: lowbridge

California governor sponsors home invasion rape murder.


31 posted on 03/31/2018 8:53:54 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: lowbridge; All
We had another one no one out side of California usually hears about

Binh Luc a Vietnamese national who was released onto the street( defacto pardon) after Vietnam refused to take him after his release.

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Vicious-killer-of-San-Francisco-family-12720617.php

“In 1998, Luc committed an armed robbery in a Chinese restaurant in San Jose, for which he served eight years in San Quentin State Prison. Authorities tried to deport him to his native Vietnam, but officials there refused to provide him with travel documents, and he was released from custody.”

He slaughtered the Lei family. Oh well

32 posted on 03/31/2018 9:32:54 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Someone named Mahre to China? First of all they won’t take him.

NBC sob story says that China's finally willing to take him back, but of course, liberals are fighting for him because he's stolen an American's job in managing a recycling non-profit in Berkley.

I've never understood the 'won't take them back' excuse. Put them on a plane, dump them at their immigration's station, let them handle the problem. If they get obstinate, hold up every incoming person from that nation until they process their citizen for reentry. 'I'm sorry, you may not enter America until your country finishes the repatriation of a fellow citizen of yours who is at the immigration station at (whatever airport it is.) You'll have to wait until your government does it's job.'

33 posted on 04/01/2018 8:46:51 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Tucker39

The California governor can indeed pardon people of crimes committed (and convicted of) in California. The legal theory is that by issuing the pardon, it removes the basis for the deportation.

Just a tiny little problem; as much as liberals love to imagine pardons erase convictions, it does so for state reasons only. It will restore voting rights IN California, but as has been tested in court, such pardons do not exempt a felon from checking the ‘I’ve been convicted of a felony’ or ‘convicted of domestic violence’ boxes on federal forms.

Most states will respect the pardon from another state (Hawaii of course is one of the exceptions) and again, as has been tested in court, such acceptance, even on the federal level, is optional and never mandatory. Full faith and credit need not apply to pardons or commutations.

Liberals are banking on federal immigration lawyers and immigration courts to honor these pardons, or at least lead enough of a public backlash to put an end to these proceedings. There’s not a lot of public support to keep kidnappers, drug dealers and wife beaters here, even in California, much less the rest of the country.


34 posted on 04/01/2018 8:55:29 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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