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Pulse nightclub shooter's wife found not guilty
ABC News ^ | 03/30/2018 | MEGHAN KENEALLY and KELLEY ROBINSON

Posted on 03/30/2018 7:34:48 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Noor Salman, the wife of Pulse nightclub shooter Omar Mateen, was declared not guilty on all counts Friday morning.

She faced charges of obstruction and providing material support to a terrorist organization.

A guilty verdict could have lead to life in prison.

Prosecutors and defense attorneys painted radically different pictures of Salman over the course of the trial -- on the one hand helping her husband prepare for the attack and on the other, an abused woman who "married a monster."

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mateen; travesty
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To: Drew68

Actually it really sounds like they knew it was the beginning of Easter and wanted to get the heck out of there and go to either Good Friday services OR wanted to shop for a big dinner for Sunday.


81 posted on 03/30/2018 11:05:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I guess that hellhole is the United States of America since she was born here. It is funny how people assume if they are not pearly white they can’t be American. That is a problem that Liberals alway ping on us because that is the feeling among most conservatives.


82 posted on 03/30/2018 11:09:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator

Importing the poison of Islam was never a good idea.


83 posted on 03/30/2018 11:10:46 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

That train has passed. I know now after 14 months of President Trump getting fought every step of the way trying to protect our country from invaders that it will never happen. We couldn’t send the Muslims back if we wanted to. Some dumb judge would stop it immediately like they have done with Mexicans, Liberians, Nigerians, Hondurans, Colombians and many other groups. With Trump, we are thankfully slowing the death, but we still are heading towards death of the United States of America. It was a good ride and the longest continuing Government in the history of the World.


84 posted on 03/30/2018 11:16:43 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: thoughtomator

In this particular case, conviction relied on the credibility of the FBI.

That the FBI no longer has credibility with the public appears to be the primary reason for this acquittal.


Wouldn’t be surprised. From what I read the FBI tripped her up in endless interviews, threatened to take away her kids, and got her to make conflicting statements. They basically used all the same tricks they used against Flynn (e.g. threatening his son). Then they hit her with process charges for lying to the FBI. AFAIK there was no other significant testimony or physical evidence introduced against her (eyewitness testimony, fingerprints on guns, buying materials, etc), just her own conflicting statements.

It wouldn’t surprise me if a combination of FBI skeptics on the right and muslim sympathizers on the left got together to get her off the hook.


85 posted on 03/30/2018 11:24:45 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: rjsimmon
...The judge directed and polled the jury pool prior to selection that each potential juror was to decide guilt or innocence based upon the law as it currently was, not how they want it to be...

The judge was wrong. Jury nullification is the last refuge of the innocent accused of breaking unjust laws. It's the whole point of having juries.

https://reason.com/archives/2017/12/12/rebellious-jurors-make-the-world-a-bette

86 posted on 03/30/2018 11:27:57 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Stawp the hammering!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
The judge was wrong. Jury nullification is the last refuge of the innocent accused of breaking unjust laws. It's the whole point of having juries.

You make an excellent point, but a law against theft or assault should still be left to a more reasoned argument then a jury deliberating. If a single juror disagrees with the law, the time and place to argue that is in the pool, prior to selection.

87 posted on 03/30/2018 11:40:46 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: fwdude

He wasn’t a queer. He was an Islamist. The Dem queer story has been debunked.


88 posted on 03/30/2018 12:23:12 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, indeed...but it seems the Mateens had an “in” with the Fibbies and Obama.


89 posted on 03/30/2018 1:10:50 PM PDT by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

What was the composition of this jury?


90 posted on 03/30/2018 1:12:16 PM PDT by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: jalisco555

“occasional” seems more like “frequent” these days.


91 posted on 03/30/2018 1:16:30 PM PDT by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: sheana

And that’s the reason why I will never serve on a “jury” or put myself in a position to be judged by one.

No offense, but 95% of people on juries are just not “essential personnel”.

Most of them are effing RETARDED.


92 posted on 03/30/2018 1:16:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: manc

and...she helped him case the joint not once but twice!


93 posted on 03/30/2018 1:17:32 PM PDT by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: miserare
Bottom line: Gay Lives Do Not Matter!😔
94 posted on 03/30/2018 1:23:30 PM PDT by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: miserare

indeed, and yet she walks free after playing I am a muslim victim woman card.


95 posted on 03/30/2018 1:37:23 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: Crusher138

>>The judge gave us strict instructions that the defendant (Broward County) had admitted their guilt and that we had to find for the plaintiff.

First of all, the term is liability (rather than guilt) and second, the judge can’t do that except in a damages only trial. Jury instruction procedures vary by jurisdiction but in all cases, they will be disclosed to both sides prior to closing argument — likely before. Jury instructions more or less restate the law as it related to factual findings. There’s no way an attorney is going to let a judge give instructions to a jury to find for one side or the other. He has an easy appeal and likely a complaint to the judicial authority of that jurisdiction.

There is a possibility that, in your case, the Plaintiff had established liability of the defendant by something like a summary judgment motion — arguing there is no issue of material fact. Thus, the jury would hear evidence and award damages. But if that were the case, the judge would not have instructed you to find for the Plaintiff - he would have already done that. You would have heard evidence regarding medical bills, pain and suffering, etc. I can’t see any legit reason how a judge could ever instruct a jury on any actual finding of fact. Either you misinterpreted the instruction or the defense attorneys were all totally incompetent.


96 posted on 03/30/2018 3:10:31 PM PDT by 1L
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To: sheana; Rome2000
I've testified in criminal court over 700 times: sleeping jury members aren't unusual.

And that’s the reason why I will never serve on a “jury” or put myself in a position to be judged by one. No offense, but 95% of people on juries are just not “essential personnel”. Most of them are effing RETARDED.

Specialty legal firms hire themselves out to make it easy for the criminal defense attorney to pick the slackers from the larger number of people selected for jury duty.

It seems to be working. :-(

97 posted on 03/30/2018 6:26:03 PM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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To: sheana; Rome2000
I've testified in criminal court over 700 times: sleeping jury members aren't unusual.

And that’s the reason why I will never serve on a “jury” or put myself in a position to be judged by one. No offense, but 95% of people on juries are just not “essential personnel”. Most of them are effing RETARDED.

Specialty legal firms hire themselves out to make it easy for the criminal defense attorney to pick the slackers from the larger number of people selected for jury duty.

It seems to be working. :-(

98 posted on 03/30/2018 6:43:07 PM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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To: miserare
If this was a Federal case, there may be professional sketches made from within the courtroom.

(A sketch of me on the witness stand appeared in the local newspaper—not a bad likeness).

99 posted on 03/30/2018 6:49:54 PM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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To: GIdget2004

She forgot about, “See something, say something”, perhaps on purpose.


100 posted on 03/30/2018 9:54:47 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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