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EDUCATING AMERICA’S ADVERSARIES: China’s engineers are building China’s military. Who taught them?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 03/27/2018 | Michael Cutler

Posted on 03/27/2018 9:37:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

By imposing tariffs on certain Chinese imports, President Trump has followed through on a significant campaign promise to address his entirely understandable concerns about Chinese unscrupulous trade practices and in that nation’s theft of U.S. intellectual property, otherwise known as espionage.

China ceaselessly and belligerently hacks U.S. computers, including corporate computers and government computers.  China constructed an artificial island in the South China Sea and has threatened military action if our vessels approach too closely.

Even as China rattles its sabers at the United States, it is arguably building up its military forces faster than any other country on earth and, unbelievably, with the assistance of none other than the United States.

As we shall shortly see, those sabers being rattled by the Chines government could likely not have been constructed without the unintended assistance of the United States.

In point of fact, you could say that where China is concerned, the United States has, all too often, acted irrationally against its own best interests in dealing with that totalitarian communist regime and continues to do so.

China’s actions and threats are certainly not befitting a nation that has been granted Most Favored Nation trade status.  China is not acting as a trading partner or ally but rather as an adversary.

China was granted Most Favored Nation trade status (MFN) by President George H.W. Bush and then, reneging on a campaign promise, President Clinton continued that practice purportedly because he felt that isolating China would not help to get them to end human rights violations.

A bit of background on this issue is provided by a news report posted by MIT on its online newspaper, The Tech in 1994 is worth reviewing, It even includes a rebuke by Rep. Nancy Pelosi and other members of Congress, back then, who opposed Clinton’s decision to impose minor trade restrictions instead of revoking MFN because of China’s abysmal human rights violations.

With all of the emphasis on tariffs and the possibility of an ensuing trade war with China, another important issue has utterly escaped mention by the media and apparently the attention of the Trump administration, the fact that the United States is educating huge numbers of Chinese students in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) disciplines.

This is hardly a new problem.  This self-inflicted wound is one I have addressed in an earlier article, Foreign Student Visas: Educating America’s Adversaries.

According to the June 2017 report issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), at 152,002 the number of such Chinese students in the United States is second only to the 173,258 STEM students from India who are being similarly trained in the United States.

That same report noted that Saudi Arabia has 25,125 students enrolled in STEM courses of study while South Korea has 16,474 STEM students who are being educated in the U.S.

I noted in a previous article, we are Educating 'Engineers Of Jihad' At US Univiersities.

On March 7, 2018 Foreign Policy Magazine published a disturbing report, China’s Long Arm Reaches Into American Campuses: Beijing is stepping up efforts to inject party ideology into student life. Some Chinese students are crying foul.

Through its embassies and consulates in the United States, the Chinese government has increasingly sought to instill Chinese patriotism among it students in the U.S. and even influence school officials to promote Chinese interests on college campuses and hence, across the United States altogether.

Indeed, we must not ignore the possibility that some of the totalitarian tactics of Antifa and other activist groups on American college campuses are inspired, aided and/or abetted by outside forces that include Chinese efforts to inject their communist and totalitarian ideology onto American campuses.

We must also consider other problems created by so many foreign students- particularly Chinese students enrolled in STEM curricula on U.S. campuses.

Foreign students who enroll in courses in the United States become eligible for Optional Practical Training, enables them to put their newly acquired education and skills to work in a real-world setting but also carries with it two serious problems.

First of all, these foreign students often replace high-tech American workers.

This is certainly not good news for those hard-working and highly experienced and skilled American middle class workers who face wage suppression or lose their jobs outright. 

Wages of foreign workers, unlike the wages earned by American workers don’t contribute to the U.S. economy.  Generally foreign workers send as much of their their earnings as possible back to their home countries.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; education; engineering; military

1 posted on 03/27/2018 9:37:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I struggle to see the benefit in all the knowledge and money we have transferred to Communist China.
How has this made our nation better?
We get to save a few cents on items we buy, but we give up so many things in exchange.


2 posted on 03/27/2018 9:43:20 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
In point of fact, you could say that where China is concerned, the United States has, all too often, acted irrationally against its own best interests in dealing with that totalitarian communist regime and continues to do so.

Understatement of the century...

3 posted on 03/27/2018 9:47:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Whores who serviced members of "elite' Washington MSM - We pay cash for dirt...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The article is a bit exaggerated, but it does have some true points. Some other things to consider

First of all, the vast majority of Chinese students want to stay in the USA, work here, and become citizens

Also, Chinese Communists are suspicious of any students or people who have remained outside for so long. Its both jealously of the people within the bureaucracy, and fear of ideological pollution.


4 posted on 03/27/2018 9:52:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

“First of all, the vast majority of Chinese students want to stay in the USA, work here, and become citizens”
But how many of those citizens are actually moles sending data back to China?


5 posted on 03/27/2018 9:58:59 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I know! Took way too long to put “America First” again.


6 posted on 03/27/2018 9:59:20 AM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: SeekAndFind

Whaddya mean “who taught them?”

Who *financed* them?


7 posted on 03/27/2018 10:00:00 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Loral.


8 posted on 03/27/2018 10:01:21 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The Chinese are experts at reverse engineering.

We have taught them very little. We have transferred very little to them.

They bought everything they want to make, from us. Then they tear it apart and copy it. They get trained by us and work for us, and remember what they’ve learned and apply it to their own uses.

Ask Bill Gates about the 5,500 Microsoft employees in China:

https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-looks-to-hire-1000-new-employees-in-china/

They work cheap:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Microsoft-Beijing-Salaries-EI_IE1651.0,9_IL.10,17_IM997.htm

A full time software engineer in Beijing earns 202,444 yuan a year, thats $32,162 US. That’s a fifth or less of what they would make in the US.


9 posted on 03/27/2018 10:01:56 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: SeekAndFind

Be it pubbies or d’rats our adversaries continue to learn from US in many fashions.

WHO paid for and arranged to educate BO’B in an American Higher Institution of learning? THIS is no better than buying ammo, handing it over as a ‘gift’ only to be shot once your back is turned. HOW in the world did educating this dopey guy make this nation any stronger, any better?

We rest our case.


10 posted on 03/27/2018 10:08:10 AM PDT by V K Lee (Anyone who thinks my story is anywhere near over is sadly mistaken. - Donald J. Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

I recall seeing Chinese guys in engineering college in 1980.

Thought they were Taiwanese, was told no, they are Mainland people.

Was speechless. Communist Chinese attending school in the US? What were we teaching them?

Everything and anything.

Comment: a real Nationalist Chinese (Taiwanese) PhD in math that I worked with told me he was invited to a get together back then that turned out to be a party criticism session run by the Chinese Communist political officer at his school (UC Davis). They thought he would toe the line, didn’t know he was KMT. He told them to go f**k themselves, but was shocked that a Maoist spy cell was operating basically in the open.

Feel safe? Happy to have all the cheap China crap at Walmart?

Suckers.


11 posted on 03/27/2018 10:15:38 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

But all these students from Mainland China are important. They pay out-of-state tuition to US state universities, so they’re major sources of funding for the university bureaucracies. And the grad students are an vital source of cheap labor for research groups (Will work for green card).


12 posted on 03/27/2018 10:29:47 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: antidemoncrat
But how many of those citizens are actually moles sending data back to China?

good question, or if not directly reporting to Chinese security agencies, how many might be willing to sell technology to others or intermediaries?

13 posted on 03/27/2018 10:34:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: omega4412

Actually, you are a little late. In the 1950’s, the U.S. began to see an influx of foreign students from Japan, Taiwan and China. These were often the very top students in those countries.
Over the next decade, we trained them well and some of the brightest went back to their native countries and became professors in local universities.
Today, we are not getting the best students as they stay home to study at the top schools in those countries taught by professors trained in the U.S.
Take a look at the professors in most STEM colleges in the U.S. and you will find that they are not native Americans ... and you wonder why we have a problem?


14 posted on 03/27/2018 12:13:56 PM PDT by rollin
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To: rollin
Actually, you are a little late... Take a look at the professors in most STEM colleges in the U.S. and you will find that they are not native Americans

Back in the 60's, the joke was that one prerequisite for advanced undergrad math courses was Chinese or one of the languages of India.

15 posted on 04/03/2018 4:45:45 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: HereInTheHeartland

There’s always one libertarian who will find a way to dismiss every consideration other than consumers getting the lowest price.


16 posted on 04/03/2018 4:53:26 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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