Posted on 03/23/2018 4:47:46 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Ching Yan Wong, Adm wrote: "I just picked this up on another post
Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes . Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice Here it is..
It's not an official 'Federal Budget'. It's an Omnibus bill not a Budget He outsmarted them again Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget
Per the Constitution the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.
This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..
An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some 'instructions' as to how the money will be spent but Obama ignored them. He spent the money, or didn't spend it, however he wanted to.
And Congress didn't do a thing about it! Because they couldn't..
I think our President observed how this happened, year after year. He is bound to realize that those 'appropriations' for different things in these Omnibus bills are merely 'suggestions'.
So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to. Or not spend it.
Planned Parenthood? What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to 'slow-walk' that money to Planned Parenthood until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?
Sanctuary Cities? What if our President decided to 'slow-walk' that money too until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?
Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia? Why yes. There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.
But what could they do about it. Hah.
Our President could just say 'What! Congress should've passed a Budget.'
done finished research was done and it is so very humorous actually .our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall put anything else you want in it and those goofballs did.
In this case, as per above .he doesn't have to spend a dime .because it is not a budget and even if it was researched .he could still spend as he please Congress appropriates .up to the President to spend it or not .as he pleases..
If anyone disagrees, I can go back and get the links and evidence, but if you just read yesterdays political thread Wheatietoo and I laid it all out for all Wheatietoo did most of the work and put together the consolidated update as per above .
Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency
Congress did continual Omibus's and he just took the money
.for 8 years
and no one seems to know where it went
There’s an article out there that says this thing has “gun control” measures in it too.
Don’t hold your breath.
That wall is gone with the wind, it will never happen.
the promise never to do it again rings very hollow. Very. It should have not been done today. Then he would have credibility to say I am not signing it until I get what I want.
OK, that article says the following:
" The omnibus spending bill bans Trump from using any of the new border wall designs his administration has commissioned, instead only allowing for previously-used fencing barriers to be constructed."
Two questions.
1. If he can only use "previously-used fencing barriers" does it specifically state barriers on the US / Mexican border? Because I can think of some pretty spiffy "fencing barriers" that the fed-gov has built in the past, just not in that specific location.
2. If he can only use "previously-used fencing barriers" does it specifically state the number of layers of "fencing barriers" that can be used? Because two (and in some locations three) of these with a "no go zone" in the middle would do a pretty good job...
Or he could just declare it an issue of National Security if there is some event related to the border and move in the Corps' of Engineers.
Chucky could be invited to stand in front of one of the bulldozers to protest it.
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I'm going to come to McConnell's defense on this, though.
Believe it or not, it's the failure and dysfunction among Democrats over the years that has driven a lot of what you are seeing in Washington today. They've done a thorough job of pissing off middle-class voters and independents across this country over the last 25 years. Over that time, they've relegated themselves to a core voter base comprised of avowed Marxists in New York City, on the West Coast, and in a bunch of urban sh!t-holes across the country. As a result of this, you have a lot of elected officials across the country who might have run as Democrats before the early 1990s but register as Republicans now just to avoid any association with the dingbats who run the Democrat Party. Unbelievable as it may sound to those who know history, the GOP has become something of a "populist" party in this country ... even while it continues to represent many of America's corporate interests.
This just makes it harder for the GOP to get a consensus on anything in Washington.
I was also disappointed at first but calmed down after learning there is a difference between a signing a budget vs signing an omnibus bill. Just like Obama, Trump can use the money or not but we know he will fund the Military first and foremost so the plan can move forward. I also understand, part of this bill will go to the wall and fund the IG including money for witness protection program. Time to read the bill.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/fears-grow-trump-will-ignore-congress-spending-241768
Trump can ignore spending money that’s not budgeted.
If this is true, and President Trump spends it on the Armed Forces, The Great Wall and all the things he promised during his campaign, I will gladly admit to having been a useful pawn in his chess game. That would be brilliant.
For all talking about the wall, this article is out there too:
AP News Guide: Trump gets wishes on border wall - sort of
That was a weak, lame response on Trump’s part. I am so disappointed in him.
So how the shutdown threat?
Boy I hope this is correct. Then President Trump should win a prize for his acting ability at the signing.
The Dems will drop the filibuster as soon as it’s to their advantage. And you know they will.
The Dems will drop the filibuster as soon as it’s to their advantage. And you know they will.
Typical naysaying...accomplishes nothing
Right, they’re all the same. Might as well hide under the covers because it’s never going to change.
You do realize that President Trump has virtually no power over legislation as long as McConnell sticks by the filibuster, right?
Absent that, he can twist arms, even Democrat arms.
But with McConnell holding the filibuster, he and he alone, holds the power in DC.
And that’s fine, if he can keep it. What I don’t understand is the apparent inability of conservatives to understand that fact and unite against him. Instead, crickets.
I think the money must be appropriated within the 6 month period and used as directed or guess who can sue?
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