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2 posted on 03/21/2018 12:49:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I’m surprised car manufacturers are coming out with all these autonomous features. These are just lawsuits waiting to happen. Our Toyota has a lane departure assist feature, but it works pretty poorly. If someone depended on that, they would be in trouble. Some of the other features seem to work pretty well.


5 posted on 03/21/2018 12:51:29 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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What? ... Me Worry ?
14 posted on 03/21/2018 1:01:36 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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Trump, of course.


21 posted on 03/21/2018 1:07:50 PM PDT by steve8714 ("My name is Rod Blagojevich and I need cash now!" (all) "Call JB Pritzker, 87DirtyCashNOW!")
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Whose fault? The arrogant technologists and the non-technology companies on track to making themselves serfs of the arrogant technologists.


36 posted on 03/21/2018 1:17:45 PM PDT by Wuli
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Did they test the TAILPIPE for alcohol?


44 posted on 03/21/2018 1:24:53 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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No matter all discussion, it is Uber's fault. If they had not had a driverless, backed up by a felon using false ID, she'd still be alive. She is in the camera in advance, she was killed by their lack of attentiveness. Her "coming out of a shadow" is likely them turning into the turn and bike lane where she was run down--out of the shadows is when the car lights turned into her. Uber has admitted problem with bikes and bike lanes. Why did sensors not pick her up? Are they visual only? If so, Uber doublely at fault for driving at night. She was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, a perfect storm for Uber to fail and run her down. Worst thing, which shows failure of Uber, no sign of them slowing or braking. So the reaction time of the computer is poor, the driver says she didn't know she was their until they hit her. Very bad all around. Inattentive felon in a not-ready-for-the-road car leads to dead little old lady.

Keep the cars off the road. Sadly people want to blame her, excuse it as she was or might have been homeless, had history of drugs, etc. Does not excuse Uber from running her down. What happens next when it is someone's kid on a bicycle after school or going to school?

51 posted on 03/21/2018 1:29:13 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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The creators of the software are going to move mountains, hire the best lawyers, and scream to high heaven so as not to be held responsible. Same with the manufacturer of the car. It will fall on the owner and “non-driver” of the car.

Just or not, that’s what will happen.


70 posted on 03/21/2018 2:00:10 PM PDT by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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Another question to ask is “How quiet or loud was the vehicle?” There was a point in maybe the 1990’s that it was noted that cars being made quieter were more dangerous to pedestrians, as it is often the sound that is heard first and the pedestrian and in some cases another driver reacts to the sound and adverts danger.


106 posted on 03/21/2018 5:43:28 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460 (I'd rather be a Trump deplorable then a Hillary corruptible.)
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This tech has been OVERSOLD from day one...

This is an 80-20/90-10 problem... meaning 80-90 percent of the work will be in the final 10-20% of the problem... This tech is NOWHERE near a point where it should be on public roads.

We don’t even have vehicles making autonomous interstate runs yet, which is a far far simpler problem.. all traffic is going the same way, limited access, no cross traffic etc... Yet these things are on city streets??? Urban driving? A far far harder problem to deal with!!! Its insane.

THese vehicles are not being held to any sort of safety standards... they couldn’t even meet the federal safety standards for RAIL!! A far simpler and controlled environment.

THe urban mayors, my own included, should be tarred and feathered for being conned into the hype around this stuff. Its insane that GM has applied for a federal ok to sell fully autonomous vehicles without a steering wheel in them, targeting a year or two to be out for general consumption.

The TECH is NOWHERE near that level yet. I am all for developing autonomous vehicles, but its a limited market in the near term, elderly and disabled who are unable to drive on their own, and will take a slow vehicle designed for safety, but gets them from a to b without depending on others. That’s the near term market, because the tech is nowhere near a level where it can safely interact with the unpredictable world of urban traffic. To be safe in that environment it must be slow, and it must default to STOP, whenever it gets “confused”

There will always be accidents, even with autonomous vehicles, I don’t know if this could have been avoided or not, but this was hardly the case as originally reported that this woman “darted out” in front of this car... She was clearly calmly walking her bike across the street... at 40 MPH even at night, she should have been seen... From the video its abundantly clear the vehicle either didn’t “see” her, or worse yet, did “see” her but didn’t recognize her for what she was.

This tech is NOWHERE near a level it should be out on public streets.... Its been a false bill of sale from day one, its a LONG LONG time from being safe and ready for the public streets.


118 posted on 03/22/2018 1:01:31 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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