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High Speed Rail project cost jumps to $77 billion, opening delayed [CA]
AP ^ | March 9, 2018 | Kathleen Ronayne

Posted on 03/09/2018 3:39:50 PM PST by C19fan

The projected cost of California's bullet train from San Francisco to Los Angeles has jumped to $77 billion and the opening date has been pushed back four years to 2033, according to a business plan released Friday.

The two-year plan presented by the California High-Speed Rail Authority is the first under new chief executive Brian Kelly, who has promised more transparency about the project's challenges after years of cost increases and delays.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc30.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: rail; williegreen
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To: fhayek

Enrich many insiders.


41 posted on 03/09/2018 4:06:50 PM PST by pluvmantelo (Americans, while occasionally willing to be serfs, have always been obstinate about being peasantry)
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To: C19fan

But I Have to Get to Work!


42 posted on 03/09/2018 4:08:03 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: C19fan

Price does not include on-board muggings and feces cleaning costs.


43 posted on 03/09/2018 4:09:33 PM PST by jimmygrace
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To: C19fan

Double then triple etc the cost as they are still building on the easy flat portion and have yet to even get close to drilling a tunnel thru the mountains.


44 posted on 03/09/2018 4:09:34 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: C19fan

By my estimate, there are about 5 million people who travel from the LA basin to the SF Bay Area, every year.

If one figures that the average one-way price of this trip is $77, then the money being spent on this ‘high speed rail’ can finance ONE BILLION TRIPS, or 200 years worth of travel between the two regions...and that is only the cost to get the system built.

You can start seeing the HORRIFIC waste of money this system is when you compare it to alternatives...and I didn’t even have to bother with Megabus, a company that averages less than half the cost of flying.


My estimate is based on this, and then I upped the number to 5 Million because there are several other airports (such as San Jose and Oakland in the north, and Burbank, Ontario, and Orange County in the south).

https://www.flights.com/flights/los-angeles-lax-to-san-francisco-sfo/

“An interesting bit of trivia: Did you know that 1,451,320 seats were available on flights from LAX to SFO in 2009? Sitting in those seats, about 1,134,098 passengers flew on regular flights from LAX to SFO.”


45 posted on 03/09/2018 4:10:08 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: goldstategop
I think Willie Green loved all train transportation but didn't care for this tune.

Boxcar Willie - The Wreck of old 97

46 posted on 03/09/2018 4:11:13 PM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and ?)
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To: goldstategop
I think Willie Green loved all train transportation but didn't care for this tune.

Boxcar Willie - The Wreck of old 97

47 posted on 03/09/2018 4:11:48 PM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and ?)
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To: Professional
You are spot on! If only there were some airplane flights between NorCal and SoCal we wouldn't need the 1840s technology running on steel rails.

Some bold entrepreneur should start a new discount airline. He could call it "Pacific Southwest Airlines" or "PSA." He should hire some hot stews and dress them in VaVaVoom short hot pants outfits. The businessmen will Love it!


48 posted on 03/09/2018 4:13:17 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: C19fan

In January, 2010, Obama breezed into Florida to promise then-GOP Gov. Charlie Crist (now Dem US Rep. from St.Petersburg) $1.25 billion to build 84 miles of track from Tampa to Orlando, which would allow trains to travel at up to 168 m.p.h., the first leg of a corridor that is eventually expected to go to Miami. At that time, the estimate for California’s COMPLETE L.A. to S.F. line was $45B for 220mph connector to which Obama promised a downpayment of $2.25B

The difference 8 years later? Crist’s GOP successor, Rick Scott put a stop to the entire project, saying it was the equivalent of a taxpayer money hole with no end of costs. He and the stoppage survived numerous political and legal challenges. California, on the other hand remains enthusiastic and the costs have gone to $77B and many years longer to completion.


49 posted on 03/09/2018 4:16:22 PM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: C19fan

Shouldn’t it start in Tijuana?


50 posted on 03/09/2018 4:16:33 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (DACA is going to be a riot!)
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To: Regulator

You could start your own airline for less.


51 posted on 03/09/2018 4:18:58 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (DACA is going to be a riot!)
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To: C19fan
From the article :
"The state has spent $2.5 billion in federal stimulus money and has an additional $930 million in federal money on the table."

They shouldn't get another dime of Federal money unless and until they obey all immigration laws and all California cities shed the sanctuary city BS plus.

Even then, this particular project is nothing but a scam to line the pockets of loyal, wealthy, democrat fascists. They need a high speed rail link when they can't even afford to maintain the highways they already have?

Come on, keeping high speed rail fit for high speeds isn't cheap and you have to stay on top of it, not just get around to it when the State Legislature decides it can put a little money in the account used for such mundane tasks.

52 posted on 03/09/2018 4:22:47 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: colorado tanker

High will go back on old tracks and low speed. What a waste of money.


53 posted on 03/09/2018 4:23:58 PM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: goldstategop
A monument to Democrat extravagance.

Or more specifically, a monument to Democrat labor union vote buying.

54 posted on 03/09/2018 4:26:58 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Paladin2

Why enslave illegals when you can tax your into oblivion?


55 posted on 03/09/2018 4:28:05 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Vaquero

my thoughts exactly Vaquero! This is the Big Dig on Drugs and Triple Teddy kennedy alcoholic delusions.


56 posted on 03/09/2018 4:28:18 PM PST by acapesket (all happy now?)
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To: umgud
We could have flying cars by then.

Or even teleportation. Beam me up Scotty!

57 posted on 03/09/2018 4:28:34 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: C19fan

Sanctuary city money plain and simple


58 posted on 03/09/2018 4:28:50 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Indeed.

Bidding for the Hoover Dam opened on Jan 10, 1931. FDR dedicated the opening of it on Sept. 30, 1935.

The cost was $49 million, which if you believe government inflation statistics, is about $750 million in today’s money.

Imagine any similar project in the USA getting built in 4+ years for less than $1 billion???!!!


59 posted on 03/09/2018 4:32:41 PM PST by PGR88
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To: C19fan

Hope they’re not counting on federal money. Seems to me the rest of America might have a problem with funding an in state project for a sanctuary state threatening to succeed.


60 posted on 03/09/2018 4:33:12 PM PST by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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