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To: fishtank
That's right. I'm pretty agnostic about time periods. The Bible is fairly loose about time and we don't exactly know how long anything really took. I just don't worry about that.

But God is a necessary part of the equation. The idea that Nothing existed, and then Nothing exploded (for No Reason) and then the exploding Nothing became all of this, and then the dead matter became alive and filled all the Earth ...

I don't have enough faith to swallow that fairy tale.

7 posted on 03/05/2018 8:45:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The government cannot protect you and isn't even trying. Self-defense is a right.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I don’t have enough faith to swallow that fairy tale.”

That is my position as well.


13 posted on 03/05/2018 8:55:11 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"That's right. I'm pretty agnostic about time periods. The Bible is fairly loose about time and we don't exactly know how long anything really took."

What's interesting to me is that when one talks about God creating the heavens and the earth in 6 days...that doesn't have to mean 6 earth days (24 hrs each).

A day on Pluto, for example, is 6.4 earth days equivalent, and therefore more than 38 days during that 6 day period on earth.

So, one "day" to God might be a million years.

There's obviously more to the universe than the earth and our daily perspective.

15 posted on 03/05/2018 8:56:47 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agree. That everything in existence came out of nothingness, for no particular reason, at some random moment in time, isn’t very logical.

...that time itself depends on speed/mass means it isn’t a constant, so the idea that the Bible implies the Earth is only 6000 years old is not one that I agree with. I’d rather substitute the word “day” with “event” regarding creation - there can’t be a “day” without planets orbiting the sun. That “on the first day” God did something reveals that the term “day” could not be referencing what we understand.


20 posted on 03/05/2018 9:13:38 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The idea that Nothing existed"

Even the concept of "nothing" in this regard is meaningless . What is "nothing?". It can't be defined because as soon as you define it, it becomes something. The whole idea of "nothing" is an abstract concept which we really can't conceive of and has no objective temporal meaning.

24 posted on 03/05/2018 9:16:07 AM PST by circlecity
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