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To: grania
What should be looked into is the pharmaceuticals that have messed up the minds of many who were prescribed them. Also look into which pols receive donations from those who push these poisons

You're wrong.

The drugs help a lot of people. They "free the will", and most of the time, for most people who take them, their "will" is to not suffer and to live as close to a normal life as they can.

The problem is that some people's craziness is a device, a defense mechanism if you will, to block or to obstruct their underlying evil, and when you free THEIR will with drugs you create a killer.

The psychiatric profession has abandoned its responsibility to protect society under the guise of "protecting their patients" from evil, judgmental normies like us, and this has to end.

21 posted on 02/20/2018 4:27:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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the AP writer, Lindsey Tanner, is being taken to task by a number of people on Twitter too:

Twitter: APHealthScience: “The concept that mental illness is a precursor to violent behavior is nonsense.” Doctor groups react in aftermath of Florida shooting. By @LindseyTanner
https://twitter.com/APHealthScience/status/965642038162096130

remember this one. look at who was tweeting:

15 Feb: Reason: No, Trump Did Not Make It Easier for Mentally Ill People to Buy Guns
Shooting revives deliberately misleading talking points about a bad regulation both the NRA and the ACLU opposed.
by Scott Shackford, associate editor at Reason
In response, a Twitter and media parade of people spouted misleading claims about an Obama-era regulation that Trump and Congress rolled back

TWEET: Chris Cuomo: are you aware that one of the regulations you got rid of made it more difficult for mentally ill to get guns?

TWEET: ABC News: .@CeciliaVega: “One of the only major actions that Pres. Trump has taken on gun control is to block an Obama-era rule that made it harder for the mentally ill to have access to guns.”

TWEET: Jennifer Rubin: almost a year ago Trump signed a bill rolling back Obama measure making it harder for mentally ill to get guns

TWEET: Daily Beast: A year ago today, the Senate rolled back an Obama regulation that would have prevented 75,000 severely mentally ill people from buying guns and put them “in the hands of people too mentally unstable to manage their own bank accounts” wrote @cliffschecter http://thebea.st/2EsKm9w

None of this is a remotely accurate description of what happened...
It’s shameful to ignore the serious constitutional problems of this poorly conceived rule just to sow panic and implicate one’s political opponents
https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/15/no-trump-did-not-make-it-easier-for-ment

of course, Snopes pushed the lie:

Snopes: Did President Trump Revoke Gun Background Checks for Mentally Ill People?
In February 2017, President Trump repealed an Obama-era regulation that would have made it easier to block the sale of firearms to people with certain mental illnesses.
MOSTLY TRUE

as did the other usual suspects:

15 Feb: Mother Jones: Trump, Who Made It Easier for Mentally Ill People to Buy Guns, Blames Mental Health Issues for Florida Shooting
by Inae Oh

PLUS, OF COURSE, THE LIE BEGAN A YEAR AGO:

15 Feb 2017: AP: Congress blocks rule barring mentally impaired from guns

28 Feb 2017: NBC: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun...
The National Rifle Association “applauded” Trump’s action...


23 posted on 02/20/2018 4:48:51 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Jim Noble
You say the drugs help a lot of people. For those people they might help (I don't see that making people dependent on chemicals is helping), why not get to the underlying causes? Lack of community involvement, a violent culture, no values education, disassociation from reality, etc.

And what about those who are turned into homicidal maniacs by these poisons? Even if it's a minority, it's a minority we can not tolerate. They're massacring people.

I'd love to see a few lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and medical professionals who pushed these poisons on their victims.

24 posted on 02/20/2018 4:49:20 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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