Posted on 02/16/2018 7:13:46 PM PST by Ennis85
Had Wednesday’s massacre of 17 people at a Florida high school been different in one respect — that is, had alleged perpetrator Nikolas Cruz shouted “Allahu akbar” during the course of his rampage — conservatives would be demanding another round of get-tough measures.
Tougher immigration laws. Tougher domestic surveillance. A rollback of Miranda rights for the accused. Possibly even a Muslim registry. Constitutional protections and American ideals, goes the argument, must sometimes yield to urgent public safety concerns.
But Cruz, like Las Vegas’s Stephen Paddock or Newtown’s Adam Lanza and so many other mass murderers before them, is just another killer without a cause. Collectively, their carnages account for some 1,800 deaths and close to 7,000 injuries in the United States since the beginning of 2013, according to The Guardian — though that’s only a small fraction of overall gun-related deaths. And conservatives have next to nothing of use to say about it.
Well, almost nothing. Some conservatives talk about the importance of mental-health interventions with the potentially violent. Florida Gov. Rick Scott wants to keep firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill. The Obama administration tried to do that after the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre by requiring the Social Security Administration to submit the names of severely unwell persons to the F.B.I.
Congressional Republicans and President Trump reversed the rule a year ago. Representative Salud Carbajal, a California Democrat, introduced a “red flag” bill last May that would make it easier for family members to keep firearms out of the hands of potentially dangerous relatives. The bill has 50 Democratic co-sponsors but not one Republican. Maybe the Parkland massacre will shame the majority into embracing the legislation.
But such laws can achieve only so much. Keeping track of dangerously unstable people who shouldn’t own guns but do
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There are to parts to the 2nd Amendment. Actually three
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, (”the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”)
What the 2nd amendment says is that nobody can limit your rights to have any kind of firearm or ammo, or clips etc...
They can cry all day and night. The second amendment will never be repealed. There will never be enough states to repeal an amendment.
The problem could be solved if we addressed the issues that CAN be addressed.
Let’s repeal the 19th amendment instead. That would settle the gun issue and a whole bunch more.
Let's see ... That's 1800 in five years or 90 per year. Seatbelts were advertised to save 5000 lives per year. And yet we still have probably 30,000 lives lost each year in auto accidents. Where is the call to outlaw automobiles?
Liberalism is definitely a mental disorder.
I personally refuse to give up my right to self-defense and find myself helpless against a liberal college professor swinging a bike lock at the end of a chain.
Why don’t we make it illegal to kill people? This stuff will never happen again.
It can’t be repealed. It is an inalienable right.
Can I vote to repeal the new York times
Repealing the 2nd Amendment would do nothing to disarm criminals.
Bret Stephens, I don’t want clueless and indifferent FBI bureaucrats to protect me from crazed killers.
I want to defend my freedom and my life without government interference.
Its you, sir - who miss the point of the 2nd Amendment and the RKBA,
Without it, we’d be slaves or dead. Thanks but no thanks.
“...by requiring the Social Security Administration to submit the names of severely unwell persons to the F.B.I”
That right there is what we in the non news biz call a lie. The order (or whatever it was) required that SSA submit to the FBI the names of SS recipients who needed somebody else to handle their finances. As in people with dementia. People with severe developmental disabilities. People who lacked the education to figure how to handle a bank account. There was a reason why the ACLU and disability rights groups opposed the measure and were glad to see it rescinded.
So what’s he doing writing an article with the use of a wooden hand operated printers’ press?
This is supposed to be one of the NY Slimes’ pet “conservatives” .... ofc the housebroken lapdogs which libtard publications allow to speak for a “conservative” view are typically RINO CINO wusses who are eager to sell out, back-stab, and otherwise betray their supposed brethren.
“With” should be “without”
Right, and the drugs may be illegal or legal or combo. Of all the blaming and speeches around these killings, one word is still missing: doctors.
A lawful repeal of the second amendment would probably mean several states seceding and perhaps another civil war. Repeal though judicial fiat like gay marriage or abortion would turn this mild-mannered desk jockey into a political assassin.
38. and 2/3 of each house of the US Congress.
And then, they have to actually come and get them. The fellow I know of with an entire bread truck full of guns and ammo buried in the hills of Kentucky ain’t likely to be a-givin’ them up without a fight
Stephens is a Never Trumper.
He’s opposed to Trump, which includes his support for 2nd Amendment repeal.
Go figure.
Hey Bret: Do you have the guts to come around trying to steal weapons yourself, or do you want to send government goons to do it for you?
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