Posted on 02/06/2018 5:06:31 AM PST by Kaslin
‘Christ shed His blood for us *because* we are made in His image.’
what about those who preceded Christ; in whose image were they formed...?
‘He sounds like an atheist or an FR rad-trad Catholic.
he sounds like he is attempting to create interest in his article, with the use of triggering devices, as any good writer will do...
He succeeded but I suspect it’s going to come at an unanticipated price.
Creation has nothing to do with it. An Agnostic believes in the possibility of God. That’s not a belief. It’s a suspicion. That’s basically inventing a God out of thin air if you believe in it. An Agnostic may have seen unexplained incidents (miracles) but that doesn’t translate automatically into God. It could just as easily be explained as The Force.
When I was an atheist, I believed in the concept of “universal evil”(i.e. Satan) because I saw evidence of it. But I didn’t believe in God because I saw no evidence. When I began to investigate the possibility of God, I still remained an atheist because I still had no evidence.
One of my coworkers says he believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster even though he admits he has no evidence. His belief is based on “other people believe other things”. That’s not really a belief.
‘He succeeded but I suspect it’s going to come at an unanticipated price.’
are you objecting because he defends life from an extra scriptural stance, or because he used the term Bible-thumpers...?
Because he used the term “Bible thumpers” in a pejorative manner. It tells more than intended. He is hostile to a fair amount of his readership.
‘Creation has nothing to do with it.’
uh, yeah, okay...
‘That’s not a belief. It’s a suspicion.’
which is a difference between the verbs ‘believe’ and ‘suppose’...let’s say I see you coming, and your eyes are bloodshot, and your lids are drooping, and you are slouching badly; I might say ‘I believe you are tired, based on your appearance’ or I might say ‘I suppose you are tired, based on your appearance’...do you actually see any distinction there...?
Everyone--believer and non-believer, before Christ or after Christ--is made in His image.
Correct and your belief is based on evidence.
My sister “believes” that our deceased mother is sending cardinals and butterflies to remind her that our mother is thinking of her. There is no evidence of that belief at all, even though there are definitely cardinals and butterflies.
As an atheist, that how I viewed agnostics and, quite frankly, some Christians. There are some things that I suspect are true but not enough to give it a name.
Christ shed His blood for all... therefore making all humans of immeasurable worth whether they accept His gift or not.
We should follow His example and not temper ours.
The listener is responsible for his/her reception of the message, not the speaker (Providing we are speaking the correct message).
>>>Believing without evidence is a very dangerous place to be<<<
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1).
>>>‘And all of us have immeasurable worth because Christ shed His blood for us. That is what imparts value to human life, nothing less’
so non Christians have no living value at all...?<<<
Christ did not shed His blood for those that want no part of Him . . . an eternity in the lake of fire is all their intrinsic worth will get them without Christ.
All Christians are pro-life.
If you proclaim yourself a Christian that means you (the generic “you”) are a follower of Christ. How can you be a follower of Christ if you are doing, and promoting, something which Christ says not to do?
You either follow Christ or you don’t.
Please note that this does not say that Christians are sinless. We all sin, but we do not celebrate that sin and promote others to do that sin. We are shamed of our failures, repent of them and try our best to do better.
Someone who has not repented of their sin (say abortion) cannot be following Christ.
John 20:29 should answer that one.
If the above statement is your belief, how to you define "faith?"
Two entirely different cases. the first is blatantly against Christ’s word. The second has no biblical basis at all.
>>>what about those who preceded Christ; in whose image were they formed...?<<<
They had a works-based religion which required the shedding of blood and strict obedience to the law. They had the Torah . . . those that did not had not because they rejected the blood sacrifices of Noah and his sons. This is what explains the lack of a Bible-based faith in many parts of our world.
He doesn't just love those who love Him--He loves every single person on this planet who ever lived, or will live.
Christ died for every single person.
And the whole church said AMEN!
There is nothing in scripture that supports that statement.
All we know is that Eve believed she received a man from the Lord (because that is all she said)
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