Posted on 02/06/2018 5:06:31 AM PST by Kaslin
All I pointed out was that the TEXT did not say so.
Was not Adam STILL 'made in the image of GOD' after the fall?
Thumping the Bibile at a secularist over abortion only makes one look like a kook. He simply does not understand. That is what Mike is saying. Evangelism needs to be done carefully to be effective. "To the Jew is am a Jew, to the Greek I am a Greek."
You are right.
The ‘True’ Scotsman’ fallacy.
We also hear it in our churches!
Genesis 4:1
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
If you are Pro-Abortion, you can’t be a Christian.
or
If you are opposed to Medicaid Expansion, you can’t be a Christian.
>>>Was not Adam STILL ‘made in the image of GOD’ after the fall?<<<
Yes he was . . . he was created thus - but he lost the immediate likeness at the fall.
It was restored soon after by God’s grace and Adam’s reception of the cure . . .
“Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them” (Genesis 3:21).
In order for God to make those ‘coats of skin’ an innocent sacrifice was made and the blood of those animals was shed.
This pictures the day when Jesus Christ would be the ‘lamb of God’ on the cross of Calvary. His resurrection sealed the deed and the Christian cross is now empty - like the tomb.
As a card-carrying “fundamentalist Bible thumper”, and I actually have a card, a membership card for the Fundamental Baptist Fellowship dated 1987, I would like to speak in defense of the kind of Bible quoting to which Professor Adams objects.
Of course he is perfectly logical about using and framing arguments that are designed to convince and persuade your opponents. Similarly, Ben Shapiro, an orthodox Jew, has explained why he never uses the Bible in argument as he feels it is an appeal to authority which shuts down actual discussion.
I could agree with the attitude if I were to accept the simple assumption that God is not really real practically speaking, we just pretend He is, we hope He is, but at the end of it all, He ain’t gonna actually boil anybody’s grits.
In a Deacons meeting one of the men said, “Pastor, prayin’ is fine, but we gotta DO something!” I knew exactly what he meant, so we did not “do” what that deacon wanted; we did nothing but pray. God answered with a $5000 donation completely out of the blue. That Deacon resigned and left the church.
When I quote the Bible, it is my way of including God, the actual, real, living God in the conversation, and I am pretty sure He doesn’t mind at all. (Psalm 94:7)
>>>And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.<<<
Eve mistakenly believed that Cain (the firstborn) was the fulfillment of the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 - but he was a murderer.
“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
Her first mistake was thinking that Cain was from the seed of a woman . . . he was from the seed of the man.
Jesus Christ came from the seed of the woman whereby he avoided the curse of Adam.
Secular humanists believe in evolution. Man is just a highly evolved animal that is not different in kind from other animals. If other animals don't have an inalienable right to life then neither do humans.
HMMMmmm...
And yet...
HMMMmmm...
‘Abortion is wrong whether if you are a believer or not.’
I say ‘amen’ to that; I have become quite agnostic about the concept of deities; I don’t outright deny their existence, I simply find it highly unlikely...if by definition, this causes me to be a secularist (and/or libertarian), then the article is spot on, as the secularist must abide by his views on the equality of status for individuals, and the libertarian must hold to his views on personal freedoms...ipso facto, a secularist/libertarian can’t possibly be anything but pro life (as was dragged out of Chris Hitchens by Dennis Prager in an interesting interview)...
it is beyond belief that someone could criticize the author for defending life because he dared do so upon extra scriptural grounds; the word ‘moron’ is bandied about, and here it applies...
>>>and thou shalt bruise his heel - Genesis 3:15<<<
Did you know that crucifixion is the only form of capital punishment that ‘bruises’ the heel?
The cross was predicted 4,000 years before the fact.
>>>and thou shalt bruise his heel - Genesis 3:15<<<
Did you know that crucifixion is the only form of capital punishment that ‘bruises’ the heel?
The cross was predicted 4,000 years before the fact.
If a Christian or a Jew does not base his arguments on Biblical principles, which does not necessarily mean quoting specific verses in Scripture, on what does he base his arguments? There is natural law, but someone who interprets natural law as, say, B.F. Skinner did would be entirely at odds with someone whose understanding derives the writings of Thomas Aquinas.
An atheist is someone who believes there is no God because they have seen no evidence to lead them to believe in God.
An agnostic is an atheist who is trying to hedge his bets. :)
If you have seen no evidence of God/s, you shouldn’t believe in Him or them or whatever. Believing without evidence is a very dangerous place to be.
‘And all of us have immeasurable worth because Christ shed His blood for us. That is what imparts value to human life, nothing less’
so non Christians have no living value at all...?
‘An agnostic is an atheist who is trying to hedge his bets. :)’
sorry that is nonsense...an agnostic is entirely aware of the fact that he/she cannot possibly know how creation came about, no matter the extent of his scientific learning, nor the fervency of his belief...
‘Believing without evidence is a very dangerous place to be.’
where did I say I believed in anything other than logical analysis...?
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