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Scoop: Trump team considers nationalizing 5G network
Axios ^ | January 28th, 2018 | Jonathan Swan, David McCabe, Ina Fried, Kim Hart

Posted on 01/28/2018 5:07:10 PM PST by Mariner

Trump national security officials are considering an unprecedented federal takeover of a portion of the nation’s mobile network to guard against China, according to sensitive documents obtained by Axios.

Why it matters: We’ve got our hands on a PowerPoint deck and a memo — both produced by a senior National Security Council official — which were presented recently to senior officials at other agencies in the Trump administration.

The main points: The documents say America needs a centralized nationwide 5G network within three years. There'll be a fierce debate inside the Trump administration — and an outcry from the industry — over the next 6-8 months over how such a network is built and paid for.

Two options laid out by the documents:

The U.S. government pays for and builds the single network — which would be an unprecedented nationalization of a historically private infrastructure.

An alternative plan where wireless providers build their own 5G networks that compete with one another — though the document says the downside is it could take longer and cost more. It argues that one of the “pros” of that plan is that it would cause “less commercial disruption” to the wireless industry than the government building a network.

Between the lines: A source familiar with the documents' drafting says Option 2 is really no option at all: a single centralized network is what's required to protect America against China and other bad actors.

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axios; fakenews
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To: Ed Condon

Is that you WillieGreen?


41 posted on 01/28/2018 5:48:27 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Mariner

Axils lies. All the time.


42 posted on 01/28/2018 5:49:40 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Mariner

So, the government will take the infrastructure that private industry built? That’s not a good thing.

As long as the government uses secure comms what do they care?


43 posted on 01/28/2018 5:49:41 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Mariner

I agree. Sounds like fake news. Now I believe the feds might build one for military internal use. But not one for private sector... well, then it wouldn’t BE private would it?


44 posted on 01/28/2018 5:50:37 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Fhios

That’s the first glance. What should the government build next?


45 posted on 01/28/2018 5:51:05 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Fake news


46 posted on 01/28/2018 5:51:18 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

I hate auto correct. Axios lies. All the time.


47 posted on 01/28/2018 5:53:41 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Mariner
1. Anyone who believes this somehow protects us against China is stupid.

2. Anyone who proposes it somehow protects us against China is evil, with another agenda.

3. Whomever made the proposal must be fired immediately. Today.

Sounds about right to me.

President Trump needs to stick with what he knows, and not fall for any abject silliness such as this. I mean really! Whose f-cking totalitarian wet dream is this? All in the name of national security, of course.

I certainly hope that President Trump doesn't go off the rails with some ridiculous garbage such as this. Let's hope it's a trial balloon, and let's all do what we can to pop it...

49 posted on 01/28/2018 5:53:51 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: Fhios

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>> “and its the perfect answer to the potential of corporate censorship.” <<

Pretty much what occured to me. The Google censorship problem.

We have to do something to nullify the fake news networks that are propagandizing everything.


50 posted on 01/28/2018 5:54:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sargon
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How would you propose to handle Google and Amazon?

The breadth of their path of destruction is incomprehensible.

51 posted on 01/28/2018 5:57:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
" The breadth of their path of destruction is incomprehensible. "

Hippies gone Mad.

52 posted on 01/28/2018 5:59:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Nope——Haven’t seen him post in a long time——not even to support the California bullet train.


53 posted on 01/28/2018 6:00:20 PM PST by Ed Condon (subliminal messages here in invisible ink)
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To: Ed Condon
(Hint: He got Zotted one day)

I only saw your FRDay after I posted. It'd be tough for you to be him reincarnated.

My bad.

54 posted on 01/28/2018 6:02:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Mariner

I’m not technical, but it sounds like a perfect way for Deep State to cut communications among all Americans. Flip one switch and it’s over. Scary.


55 posted on 01/28/2018 6:08:19 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Paladin2

Global control freaks gone mad.


56 posted on 01/28/2018 6:09:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Or to guard against enable a Deep State blackout.

Just like we're seeing evidence of egregious abuses of the Classification, with some indicators that it could be widespread, centralizing communications under some government control might lead to abuses – all the deep state would need is to suborn the person with authority to shut the system down… and maybe not even that! (Imagine, if you will, something like the Hawaii missile-alert test accident.)

57 posted on 01/28/2018 6:14:43 PM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Mariner

Way back when - long before the Internet became common usage, the French government built a “video text” device and systems to handle it on the phone network. Where is it today? Gone, like the Concorde.

DARPA could do something proprietary for exclusive government use on a separate military 5G network. However, most likely DARPA would merely farm out the R&D to the commercial sector, which would likely rapidly gain commercial use of the technology. It would most likely also be the subject of intense foreign spying activity on that development.


58 posted on 01/28/2018 6:15:10 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Mariner

It is from Axios, which is about as reliable as Joe Conason or Paul Begala. Don’t believe it until a real news source publishes it.


59 posted on 01/28/2018 6:20:42 PM PST by djpg
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To: Mariner
The cellular space simply moves far too quickly for the government to be able to do this in any kind of intelligent way.

What exactly is a "5G" network? Yeah, it has some meaning as a marketing term, but as a technical specification, it is somewhat lacking. The terms '3g', '4g', and now '5g' are really marketing terms more than actual networking/cellular specifications. What one carrier called 4g isn't really the same from a protocol perspective as another carrier's 4g. It's all just marketing speak that is supposed to denote rough equivalence. If the government does somehow develop and pay for a '5g' network to be built out nationwide, what will happen to this "5G" network 10 years down the line when the next big thing "6G" comes along? Will the government maintain the 5g network forever? Will they require future compatibility with same?

If the government wants to be concerned about telecom stuff, I'd recommend they point their big snoopy noses at SS7. Of course, the huge flaws we've discovered in SS7 allow the government to pretty much tap those circuits at will without any meaningful control or oversight, so they wouldn't be interested in helping get that stuff fixed. The fact that it also leaves us open to other snoops is just a minor point to the feral government that is of no real concern or interest.

60 posted on 01/28/2018 7:00:00 PM PST by zeugma
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