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To: ealgeone; Mrs. Don-o
Bowing before carved images is bowing before carved images and is clearly and expre3ssly forbidden by God.

Catholics can try to use all kinds of semantic games and get into ridiculous hair splitting differences between worship and adulation, etc.

But God's command deals with the physical and seen which cannot be denied, instead of weasel words which can be.

The command is this.....

Exodus 20:4-6 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

It doesn't say to not worship, which I have no doubt God knew people could deny with their hair splitting definitions.

It DOES say to *NOT BOW DOWN*.

That can be objectively seen and determined.

And there are plenty of images on the internet of Catholics doing exactly that.

And I remember well seeing people do it in the very Catholic churches I used to attend.

642 posted on 01/31/2018 5:58:13 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
Here's the thing.

On bowing: the Biblical context often affirms "bowing," as a form of respect, illustrated by dozens and dozens of OT instances in which godly people bowed to people, places, and things, yet without being guilty of idolatry. What is condemned is idolatry, not merely "bowing".

Similarly, on "Father": the Biblical context often affirms calling human men "fathers" as a form of respect, illustrated by dozens of NT instances in which godly people (like Apostle Paul and the msrtyr Stephen) called men "father" without being guilty of disobeying Christ. What is condemned is settning up a rival to God's authority, not rightful respect to fathers, masters and teachers.

But do you want to understand? it seems not, because you've never engaged with these points even though this discussion has been going on for years.

So excuse me, right now I have something else to do.

655 posted on 02/01/2018 11:05:06 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You have eyes: don't you see? You have ears: don't you hear? Don't you even remember?" -Mark 8:18)
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