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America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.
The Week ^ | January 26, 2018 | Ryan Cooper

Posted on 01/26/2018 5:39:49 AM PST by C19fan

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To: NorthMountain

“The author is dishonest. The XX Century in America was characterized by an increasing rejection of the Constitution. The present government is a nightmare swamp because it has spread to areas forbidden to it by the Constitution. What we have is not a failure of the Constitution, but a refusal of people in government to obey it.”

Well said!


121 posted on 01/26/2018 10:53:21 AM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Agree, just as most believe that Bill Clinton was impeached over a stained blue dress.


122 posted on 01/26/2018 11:18:42 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie
Agree, just as most believe that Bill Clinton was impeached over a stained blue dress.

Those who control the information streams, control what the public thinks about various events. This is why I keep trying to tell people that our number one focus should be on taking away the power of the existing media/information systems to control the "news."

We have to break their monopoly or they will eventually break our system of governance.

123 posted on 01/26/2018 11:45:14 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

That depends on whose history you believe. The facts are that food/agriculture was clearly more in the south, but south was poor and had no way to make a lot of manufactured/industrial products that could be shipped overseas.

Calhoun and his tariffs created the biggest rifts creating anger at time of war beginning....

Maybe this info will show how it came down to a Civil War:

http://www.historycentral.com/CivilWar/AMERICA/Economics.html


124 posted on 01/26/2018 12:36:08 PM PST by Ambrosia ( Independent Voter- Southern as grits...Not politically correct! Facts first!)
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To: Ambrosia
That depends on whose history you believe. The facts are that food/agriculture was clearly more in the south, but south was poor and had no way to make a lot of manufactured/industrial products that could be shipped overseas.

European manufacturing and industrial processes were at that time superior to those in the US. They didn't want or need manufactured goods, they wanted and needed raw materials mostly. The tariffs were put into place to keep the European manufactured goods from flooding US markets and displacing American manufacturers of same or similar goods.

Here is a statement of the export trade from a New York Author from a book written in 1860.

Others have shown me sources of information that demonstrate an even greater amount of Southern wealth production than is shown in this book.

Calhoun and his tariffs created the biggest rifts creating anger at time of war beginning.... Maybe this info will show how it came down to a Civil War:

The "tariffs" have long been cited as a major cause of the war, but I think this is a red herring that has long been advanced to discredit the real economic reasons for the war. The "tariff" issue is one part of it, but it is much bigger than just the tariff.

The threat to the North East was the possibility of the South intercepting the lion's share of European trade, and the possibility that they would undermine existing manufacturing and industry in the North by setting up their own industries from the additional capital they would receive by handling direct European trade themselves.

They threatened the possibility of capturing the west and midwest by becoming the supply system for these regions. As their economics led them to closer ties to the south, so too would their politics and allegiances eventually have followed.

125 posted on 01/26/2018 1:19:52 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: C19fan
There's two things wrong with the Constitution: 1) No term limits, because the founders thought that the people would not make a career and 2) We need an IQ test, or we elect morons like SJL, Maxi, Hank 'Guam will flip over' and the psedo Cowgal Fredickia...(or Liz Speaking bull) 😀
126 posted on 01/26/2018 2:17:33 PM PST by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well, I will accept that fact, although many claim otherwise. Have a good evening.


127 posted on 01/26/2018 2:37:00 PM PST by Ambrosia ( Independent Voter- Southern as grits...Not politically correct! Facts first!)
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To: C19fan

The Constitution is the worst form of government, except for every other one ever devised.


128 posted on 01/26/2018 4:26:06 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: C19fan

I kinda like the Constitution. I vote we keep it.


129 posted on 01/26/2018 4:52:44 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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130 posted on 01/26/2018 4:55:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: C19fan

A look at Ryan Cooper’s Facebook page and you know he is a flaming Communist. What else would he be as a Sander’s supporter?


131 posted on 01/26/2018 7:37:46 PM PST by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: Ambrosia
Well, I will accept that fact, although many claim otherwise.

I was surprised as well when I learned of this. I had always thought the North, having four times the population, created most of the trade.

Have a good evening.

And you as well.

132 posted on 01/27/2018 2:27:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
AMEN

The solution to many of the problems in the government is to go BACK to the Constitution, not scrap the Constitution. This author thinks that we need a more efficient, stronger central government. The original idea was an limited central government, with States that held much of the power. That is why the House was elected by the people and the Senate by the States. Going back to that would mean that Senators would do what was best for their state, not do what was best for their re-election.

133 posted on 01/27/2018 3:09:40 AM PST by BruceS
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