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1 posted on 01/25/2018 1:39:04 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Absolutely agree!


33 posted on 01/25/2018 2:12:40 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If all border security and internal vetting procedures are in place than I have no problem having a pathway to citizenship over a period of years, perhaps in stages depending on when they entered the USA. Starting somewhere between 10-15 years from now and over a period of 20-30 years.

BUILD THE WALL, STRICT E VERIFY, harsh ENFORCED penalties for employing an illegal. An illegal cannot rent an apt, buy a home, open a bank account, get a library card, receive any kind of tax payer funded benefit beyond emergency care with quick deportation to their native country’s medical facilities.


41 posted on 01/25/2018 2:20:44 PM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Cruz is full of crap.


43 posted on 01/25/2018 2:24:39 PM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Hey Ted!!!

Was there a FISA warrant to permit spying on you?

Of course there was


44 posted on 01/25/2018 2:26:46 PM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; DoughtyOne

Isn’t Cruz the cutest thangggg???

Can anybody here see he’s runnin’..... again, trying to rebuild his boots with Texas RINO’s, in Austin, being seen giving the president a hard time??

Trump has crushed Cruz’ own amnesty dreams, of yester-year, HIS “path to citizenship” babblings for illegals, “coming out of the shadows”, and also shipping in foreign workers by tripling their numbers, (dumb putz) from those of the Gang of Eight, ie., Graham, MCCAIN, Rubio, etc..

Crooze lied to Texas to get his silver mouth into the US Senate, somberly speaking of how kind Heidi-hidey was to sacrifice the ENTIRE family fortune to contribute, with Goldman backers making up the difference (which was not discovered until after he was elected). (Hat tip to Heidy-hidey donor collections.)

No, Cruz needs to avoid the cliff’s edge. Texans have his number and the resulting outrage is quite branded into the TEXAS memory, of what a snake he is, what has come out of that self righteous silver lined mouth of his, of his ruthless campaign operation in the South, and the screw he applied to Trump won delegates replacing them with Cruz delegates.

We learned a lot about oh, so, conservative Crooooze. So did all of America, particularly those in the US SENATE. It has had to cost him a million or more to redeem himself and the promise to sit at the back of the bus from now on.

Didn’t you all just love the $250,000.00 Cruz gave to the NSRC PAC (during his apology service to Mitch McConnell) while serving as the Vice Chair on that Committee, who then crushed the conservative in MISSISSIPPI, (a Trump supporter) so they could RESURRECT and re-elect the 84 year old RINO mule, Thad Cochran, who was getting beaten like a rented mule?


46 posted on 01/25/2018 2:31:53 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public education & academia= the farm team for mNoore Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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I think we can come up with an amnesty plan that Republicans will agree to and will appeal to the American electorate. They can be forgiven for being brought here as children. That does not mean that they necessarily get to stay, just that what their parents did will not cause them to be put in jail and then deported, at least not if they follow certain requirements.

Rather, they can go to Mexico or whereever and apply from there for admission as a regular immigrant. Their having been an illegal will not be held against them, as it is in a normal application. In fact, we can put forth certain criteria that will put them in the front of the line:

1. They were brought here before age 15;
2. They went to school in the US and graduated from high school at least. We don’t want illiterates.
3. They have never committed a felony or a misdemeanor involving certain types of crimes (we can come up with a list of misdemeanor crimes that are disqualifying, such as sexual assault, violent assault, anything involving robbery or theft that got pleaded down, etc.)
4. They speak and write English with high school level proficiency.
5. They have not violated immigration law as adults.
6. They applied for DACA, or apply for a new program to identify themselves and so we can know how many are out there, who they are and where they are.
7. They have never voted in a US election, or a Mexican one.
8. They pledge loyalty to the US and to the US Constitution, and renounce loyalty to any other country. No dual citizenship.

There may be other good conditions, but that’s a start.

If they have American children, have a good job, have not recently been on welfare, i.e. are not a burden to society, they get bonus points.

If they meet all the criteria, they then get put to the front of the line of all incoming immigrants. Whatever the annual number is that we allow legally, these people count against that. If there are more than can be brought here in one year, then we only bring what are allowed under existing law, the ones at the top of the list first, and working our way down.

Assume the number is 3 million, which is more than the number of DACA registrants. Maybe they come in over 2-5 years and it does not increase the total number of immigrants. It does skew heavily in favor of Mexicans, but we can correct that once all the DACA kids are in by counting them against Mexico’s numbers after DACA immigration is over. We can then bring in Trump’s Norwegians and Asians, and counterbalance the new Democrat voters. To prevent a disruption to our electoral system, we can make the pathway to citizenship take longer for DACA people, 10-12 years or something like that, while the time for regular immigrants who did it the right way remains 5 years or whatever it is now.

Just my random thoughts, but I think it would work. In a perfect world, we would send them and all illegals home, but this is a workable solution in exchange for the wall, e-verify and increased border enforcement. Once we stop the invasion, we can work on assimilation and restoration of a semblance of America before they tried to replace us.


47 posted on 01/25/2018 2:33:11 PM PST by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Whenever DACA comes up on these pages A picture of Mexican train freight cars topped with abandond children from Mexico’s southern neighbors should appear. Along with an explanation of how much that Obama government policy is costing voters of those states where they were dumped off is.


49 posted on 01/25/2018 2:44:38 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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For once, I agree with Ted.


50 posted on 01/25/2018 2:47:10 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What caused the turn around in Cruz?


56 posted on 01/25/2018 2:58:54 PM PST by cranked
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Ted’s completely right on this.


62 posted on 01/25/2018 3:16:18 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Ummm… these illegal aliens, who were illegally dragged across the border into a foreign country as children by their illegal alien parent(s), already have a “path” to US citizenship! All they need to do is join their fellow foreign country citizens by getting at the back of the line and applying…

But Sen. Cruz does have a point that these people do NOT deserve any special treatment.


64 posted on 01/25/2018 3:19:12 PM PST by Synthesist
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and just like that Cruz is back on the good side but most of us voted against him when he turned out to be a jerk, so
now its Trumps way and this is part where Trumps going to take take the heat. I bet this was in the works all along and he telegraphed it at that televised meeting..


68 posted on 01/25/2018 3:40:27 PM PST by SteveinSATX (Anti-liberalism 24/7)
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There should be no citizenship for illegal aliens no matter what cute name is given to them.

We need to get organized and contact Trump.

86 posted on 01/25/2018 5:16:42 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Someone mentioned considering SOME of the “dreamers” for Green Card status, depending on skills, language, etc. But absolutely NO citizenship, path to citizenship, or true amnesty.


87 posted on 01/25/2018 5:19:04 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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This is a stunning reversal of what Trump supporters thought was promised. But we were warned that Trump might be pro-amnesty. Even as he was beginning to run for president, he was still making pro-amnesty statements.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/tim-phares/to-the-trump-supporters-the-real-record-on-immigration-and-amnesty/10156280762755177/


92 posted on 01/25/2018 9:12:51 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Trump is twisting Schumer’s nipples with his framework “proposal” because he knows Chuck is on the ropes and can’t accept anything that doesn’t legalize 30 million illegals if he wants to get any sleep..... Trump also asks for $25 billion instead of the original $18 billion for the wall in this document - rubbing it in.


95 posted on 01/26/2018 2:34:53 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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So, you are saying if you got the wall, ended chain migration, ended the diversity visa program, and ended birthright citizenship, ended H1B, reduced the number of legal immigrants allowed per year to 500k, etc... You would be opposed to saying, someone who was brought here as a child, and lived here since without any known infractions, couldn’t get a green card for 20 years, be required to pay his taxes, and obey all laws during that time or be deported, and at the end of that 20 years, provided they obeyed all of that, that they then be eligible for citizenship and not be allowed to sponsor any other relative for immigrations?

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.


97 posted on 01/26/2018 7:47:37 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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If I’m not mistaken Cruz is here illegally.


100 posted on 01/26/2018 8:02:18 AM PST by jpsb
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