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Opinion: Democrats need to discard their incrementalism and end their capitulation
NBC "News" ^ | January 23, 2018 | by Jamie Peck

Posted on 01/23/2018 9:07:46 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Party leaders must learn from the GOP and listen to their base, which skews as progressive as the Republicans’ does reactionary.

Senate Democrats on Monday voted overwhelmingly to end the government shutdown without protections for the DREAMERs - who were protected from deportation and allowed to legally work by the Obama-era DACA policy eliminated by President Trump in 2017.

For the Democratic Party’s progressive base, their capitulation was a disappointing end to a moment in which it seemed like the party might finally take a real stand against abhorrent Republican policies.

The DREAMERs were meant to be an unassailable group of people after whom not even the most craven of elected officials could justify going. And yet, here we are.

Maybe Obama should have pushed for a more significant immigration reform from the start, instead of carving off the most sympathetic group for assistance under DACA, then putting off the rest of immigration reform for President Clinton to deal with on a day that would never come.

It’s time for Democrats to re-evaluate incrementalist tactics like these, based on their actual outcomes.

As 2018 and 2020 approach, Democratic candidates would do well to keep listening to progressive movements and leaders, not Trump voters they hope can be turned at the polls.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: border; budget; buildthefence; communism; daca; democrats; dreamact; dreamers; fakenews; illegalaliens; invasion; jamiepeck; mediawingofthednc; nbc; partisanmediashills; trump
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To: MortMan
But isns't that what the Left always does? Double Down on their policies?

They learned this from Obama.

21 posted on 01/23/2018 9:29:34 AM PST by Stepan12 (It is Civll War right now..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Trump is on the verge of provoking them to go full-on nutso looney. It will destroy their electoral prospects.


22 posted on 01/23/2018 9:30:52 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mrmeyer
She’d have you kneeling before an open trench if she could.

Yup. The Second Amendment is all that's stopping her, and her friends.

23 posted on 01/23/2018 9:33:32 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

..”a recent CBS News poll found that some 87% of Americans believe that the DREAMERs should be allowed to stay in the country, should they meet certain requirements”

Only those that are productive, i.e.: no crime or gang affiliation, actively pursuing or college degree on hand, must be English language proficient (read and write), at minimum.

daca recipients will not be allowed to vote, must return to homeland upon acquiring college diploma.


24 posted on 01/23/2018 9:35:53 AM PST by chief lee runamok
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To: mrmeyer

-—She’d have you kneeling before an open trench if she could.-—

Yup...sadly most decent americans won’t believe it...


25 posted on 01/23/2018 9:36:50 AM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: conservative98
Cats and communism

And yet, NBC publishes her trash.

26 posted on 01/23/2018 9:52:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep, the uber-left has already poured gasoline on themselves and are waiting for someone to light the match.
People like this writer are going to be the one to light the match.


27 posted on 01/23/2018 9:59:16 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s why NBC is fake news. She is also into santanism, apparently. Lots of santanic and communism posts onher instagram. smh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdeAhQJB52j/?taken-by=jamiepeck666


28 posted on 01/23/2018 10:00:31 AM PST by conservative98
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Not that it makes any difference to the law, but most of these illegal "DACA" aliens were NOT brought in "through no fault of their own"

Does anyone else remember the 'unaccompanied minors' that flowed across the border during Obama's time in office?

29 posted on 01/23/2018 10:02:30 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Bryanw92

very well put!!


30 posted on 01/23/2018 10:04:12 AM PST by No_More_Harkin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nice set of DSL’s tho


31 posted on 01/23/2018 10:06:17 AM PST by Blackirish ("Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners." - George Carlin)
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To: tumblindice

Well it’s kind of like grabbing a cat by the tail and then blaming the cat for pulling.


32 posted on 01/23/2018 10:12:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: sportutegrl

A law that doesn’t embrace a morality which can get a consensus is one that will need tyranny to keep in place.

Mexican kids were often cruelly pushed into this. That’s a cynical abuse. Mexico doesn’t share official US scruples about child labor. If US parents acted that way, their kids would be put in foster care in an effort to avert more abuse.


33 posted on 01/23/2018 10:20:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

34 posted on 01/23/2018 10:20:47 AM PST by 4Liberty (illegal immigration is a "process" crime too....)
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To: 4Liberty

Lol


35 posted on 01/23/2018 10:23:47 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes, Comrades!


36 posted on 01/23/2018 10:31:51 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: choctaw man

Jamie Peck, all tatted up.


But she probably looks good in a pussy hat. (Not.)


37 posted on 01/23/2018 10:32:49 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I don't like her. I can tell that much from her arrogant sneering face.

And then there's her use of communist language:

Party leaders must learn from the GOP and listen to their base, which skews as progressive as the Republicans’ does reactionary.

Not "Democrat" leaders. "Party" leaders. To a communist, there is only one Party. And its agenda is "progressive" It is also always in control; its opponents are "reactionary" ... not having minds or agenda of their own ... just stupidly, insanely, reacting against the Party.

Should I even bother reading the rest of her dreck?

38 posted on 01/23/2018 10:36:48 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The DREAMERs were meant to be an unassailable group of people after whom not even the most craven of elected officials could justify going.

A revealing choice of words, this. "Meant", not "supposed", "meant" meaning deliberately positioned that way, "meant" meaning "the narrative was established, it was rock solid." Peck is aware that the whole heartstring-plucking "DREAMER" narrative is phony as hell, it's just supposed to have worked anyway and it didn't. What could be wrong?

Well, for one thing, the entire "the party should stop listening to those bigoted non-educated working class people and get back to its base, urban hipsters like me" has the virtue of having cost the Dems the last Presidential election and it doesn't look like our author has figured that out yet. For another, "unassailable" means simply that she thought they'd constructed an indestructible tool and look, they broke it! They can't break our tool! And for a third, had at any point over the last eight year administration, the Dems been serious about enforcing the existing laws, we wouldn't be having this conversation and their set-up victims wouldn't be vulnerable. We didn't set them up, the Dems did, like putting babies on a railroad track and then complaining when the train comes along.

This, however, is truly the face of communism: cynical, manipulative, and utterly amoral. I would no more take Peck's arguments seriously than I would a rattlesnake's.

39 posted on 01/23/2018 10:40:19 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: conservative98
It's the law. Commie snakish ssssskanks are welcome here only if they: Image and video hosting by TinyPic
40 posted on 01/23/2018 10:54:05 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all white armed conservatives)
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